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@JustLimi The LN is recommended to be read first for the convenience of the writing. In writing a looot of times the story shapes to be something different in the middle of it, this series just happens to have a lot of that. There's always gonna be differences between the LN and WN, but this...

This is fun to reread.

You know even people who hate the human side in the beginning of the LN, and even previous manga readers who switch over to the novels. ALWAYS end up agreeing on the importance of the human chapters when reaching LN5. EVEN THE ANIME thinks so, doing two cours is fucking risky if they dont think...

Man, that got really heavy there. This mangaka is really good. Chapters 38-39 even gave me slight ptsd even haha.

@JustLimi Web novels usually are just like first drafts of the story before there's a proper editor. Though with the series the web novel kinda goes off to be it's own thing and is gonna even have a different ending than the LN. Volume 6 and 7 are like over 90% original from the WN I believe...

Oh finally the rating has turned decent.

Lmao the new cover.

I've bought this series physically on a whim because of the artwork, it is def a gem.

GOD DANG IT STUDENT COUNCIL GIRL. I want to know about Utsugi's backstory since it was first hinted at before!

@NIPHY Tanaka is just a random girl that's fighting on the girl's side of the match.

Oo, so far seems really good. Translation readable enough but I do hope for an official English translation one of these days I'm interested enough to pay.

Yeah Utena has already fully fallen to corruption and has no chance of returning now.

@Shunrei if it makes you feel better

Forgive me mother for I have sinned.

@Korpi93 Personally I liked the classmate chapters but even the majority of LN readers don't. Most agree the payoff is 150%, if anything the more you hate them the more the payoff might even be. I'd give the series five volumes if you can. The author probably intended for everyone to hate Shun's...

The romance between the highschool girl and the mother is developing actually rather nicely. With these kinds of premises you kind of have to bullshit the romance to be two-sided but this one actually does it well.

@JBBJSBB thanks for the answer! I guess I can probably just skim stuff that drags out.

My interpretation halfway reading is that she probably drugged him or some shit to probably rape him. But people have been interpreting it's him simply suppressing his memories which would probably make more sense.

Oof, I remember reading this when I was still generally new to manga and it had like 8-15 chapters out and I was happy to find it again but damn the direction doesn't look good judging from the comments. Can someone tell me if I should just read it still anyways?

@anonbtw1738 beginners should always read the LN. The manga and anime follow more closely with the LN storyline. The WN branches off from the LN storyline quite a lot and the beginning is machine translated. The WN seems like a thing you should probably read once you've read the LN first. The...