cant believe the edge lords blaming shin lol u think ouki or any other general agrees with kanki's ways? hes a fucking villain for a reason, shin just had the balls to say and do what he did when it did happen right in front of him. shins already a father to his own army ofc hes gonna be disappointed why shouldnt he be in that context; even bihei admitted to fucking up. if shin falters in his ideals / principals here, theyre not even that absurd just no pillaging / raping / absurd killing, what justifies his journey more than just seeking violence - dragging his men through the mud and making children fatherless. him unifying china with violence might be super counterintuitive to peace but i mean its at least something you can debate and that has been debated previously, unlike senselessly razing villages to the ground for the sake of. ethics might go over these barbarians but at the end of the day theyre still inexecusable and undeniably wrong (just because its in the past still dont make succumbing to your carnal pleasures on this level right, however flimsy and often unreal a concept honor can be at least people are sticking to something separating them from being beasts, especially when it gets this bad; might is right wuxia bullshit got you edgelords higher than a mfker you think its alright to get cucked when somebodys better than u at something, or its alright to get fucked over the ass since ur weak chickenbones shit).