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[dirak]

ah so the author finally made the domestic violence unable to ignore. going to have to drop this, which is a shame

 

[Chrona]

Ah, I see these lesbians have fallen into the 50% domestic abuse rate as well. This manga really does accurately portray lesbian relationships.

 

[Lilliwyt]

It will more funny to see the reactions when you will realise than Mikanuji will be prompt to past over that violence part and don't give 2 shits about what you think about it. Not only it's the first it's outside of the "comedy" slapstick setting which make it more bearable but that's probably the last time Mikanuji will use such settings. Yeah Iori is a failure of a human being ? Did you just start to read the manga ? Same for the violence, did you start to read last chapter ? If you don't like that then you're free to drop it.

 

[BoshJaker]

I feel like it was more of a “put some sense into her” slap, nothing like she is try to use violence to control her.

 

[Mattitude12]

I'm pretty sure the violence is all slapstick.

 

[Chrona]

@BoshJaker

I feel like it was more of a “put some sense into her” slap, nothing like she is try to use violence to control her.

What's the difference? Have you ever slapped someone to put sense into them?

 

[mirewitch]

@BoshJaker I agree that is what the author probably intended, but as you can see from the comments section, how violence is framed has a huge influence on the way people view it. And here, Minami has multiple bandages on her face, a coworker is actively worried about her, and in the violence itself is depicted rather seriously. Then in the 4th page all of that is ignored in favor of acting like Iori was completely justified and Minami needs to apologize. This makes it feel like the author is saying that domestic violence isn't a serious problem. I highly doubt the author intended that sort of message, but it is still there, and messes up what could have been a good chapter about Minami resolving her own insecurities.

Oh, and as an aside, I don't think "put some sense into her" slaps are a good trope either, since they normalize the concept that hitting someone is an acceptable conversational tactic. But usually that sort of thing is used to create a dramatic visual, ala the one on page 3, and then ignored. They don't draw attention to the violence by showing an aftermath in which the victim is bandaged and coworkers are concerned.

 

[Xari]

Ah yes, good ol' domestic violence and the controversy it has within the comment sections. Can't help but wonder what would our resident hai color conspiracist say about this one.

In any case, thanks for the update as always <3

 

[Thrembs]

Ok, this has now drifted fully into NOT OK.
Classic pattern of abuse stuff.

Yeeeeesh

 

[Lilliwyt]

Well they’ve never been the most emotionally stable couple. But seriously this was a very real chapter for me, some people might be reassuring but to others it’s the most frustrating thing in the world when someone else tries to decide what’s best for you. If someone tells you they like you or they’re happy don’t try to make like it’s not true.

Have you ever had that one friend or been that depressive person saying things like “No one likes me”, “You’re just saying that.” and legitimately wanted to slap them because you know it’s not true and no matter how much you try and tell them you love them or anything reassuring they just don’t accept it. There’s only so many times you can say the same thing and not get annoyed.

That’s what I saw in the chapter, no matter how happy Iori is, or says she is, Minami keeps thinking she’s not enough or that Iori could be happier, and that hurts. Almost like Minami is rejecting their relationship. It’s peak self sabotage/self loathing and I’ve been on both sides of that. Psychoanalysis over.

Just quoting a comment of Dynasty. Bear in mind that's just for explaining why, not justify it. Note that beside the comedy slaps that have occur (cause yes they were for comedy purpose), Iori have slap seriously 2 times Minami and it's when Minami was doubting of their relation. It's normal to be mad at your lover when she start to doubt your relation, especially out of self-confidence problem.

 

[MacMeaties]

What Chrona said. Lesbian relationships irl are statistically the most physically abusive out of any relationship demographic so while this is disconcerting it's at least accurate.

Not excusing it just saying it happens much more frequently than most people realise.

 

[Lilliwyt]

I mean, it's easy to say the statistic are higher when there is fewer sample. Statistics are always either too high or too low (depending on what you search for) when you have much less sample on one side.

 

[Chrona]

@Lilliwyt

I mean, it's easy to say the statistic are higher when there is fewer sample. Statistics are always either too high or too low (depending on what you search for) when you have much less sample on one side.

That is true, but doesn't really apply in this case. That statistic comes from the CDC and has the largest sample size of any survey performed in the US. It specifically comes from the 2010 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey 2010, which had 9970 women interviewed, 1.4% of whom identified as lesbian. That leads to about 130~ lesbians interviewed, which is far above the sample size needed for a p-confidence of 95%<. You can't find more accurate statistics than that.

@MacMeaties

Lesbian relationships irl are statistically the most physically abusive out of any relationship demographic so while this is disconcerting it's at least accurate.

Actually it's bisexual women that experience the most domestic abuse overall. Though since it's hard to identify whether the perpetrator was male or female in those instances, it's vague if it's more from women than men.

 

[MacMeaties]

@Chrona I stand corrected!

 

[Taco-chan]

everyone talking about abuse n shit but im just wondering how kfc and sushi would taste together

 

[DaddyDana]

@Taco-chan LMAO I gotta wonder what shit they're on to nonchalantly make a decision of such high order of travesty

 

[Sleepingair]

Aaaww they're so cute thank you sooo much for the translations!!!

 

[icekatze]

Imagine if this were any other kind of relationship. How many people have gotten mad at their boss and thought about slapping them? What kind of social consequences would they have if they actually did? Blaming the violence on the anger as if it were an unavoidable consequence is a big red flag, and a sign of anger management problems. Blaming it on the victim for causing the anger is an even bigger red flag.

 

[taior]

 

[nhanvt19501]

I mean if you prefer back to chapter 17 she probably cried a lot this time too, so that is kinda cute