Bloodharley's Coach
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Series with Rape or NTR often get hit with low scores by people who don't like such things in their stories.
Think a vegan giving a stake house a 1/10 for their lack of vegan options. It's the same thing. They aren't rating the quality of what's being offered.
Think a vegan giving a stake house a 1/10 for their lack of vegan options. It's the same thing. They aren't rating the quality of what's being offered.
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That girl from chapter 5 had no idea what she just got herself into
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need a sexual violence tag
@ciurrb
You guys want to know why this only has 8 chapters? Or the really low ratings?
It's not cause there's disgusting rape shet or lack of morals. That's never the reason because you need to show true darkness to contrast them with your hero or to make a point etc.
No. . . . the problem is the story has no coherent or clear plot and it's essentially jumping from one view point to the next on an unrealistic story. It's essentially
Okay. . . . 1st off, stories are uninteresting unless you show the motivations and interaction between characters. In this story, there ARE NO MAIN CHARACTERS and the story jumps from random unexplained opera scenes to
.
Oh... kay. . . . . . . the villian or great evil should show us how the characters in the story react and in doing so reveal their character, values, personality and interaction with other characters.
This story does none of that. It's completely hollow and thus it got cancelled in 8 chapters.
You guys want to know why this only has 8 chapters? Or the really low ratings?
It's not cause there's disgusting rape shet or lack of morals. That's never the reason because you need to show true darkness to contrast them with your hero or to make a point etc.
No. . . . the problem is the story has no coherent or clear plot and it's essentially jumping from one view point to the next on an unrealistic story. It's essentially
rape fantasy
Okay. . . . 1st off, stories are uninteresting unless you show the motivations and interaction between characters. In this story, there ARE NO MAIN CHARACTERS and the story jumps from random unexplained opera scenes to
unexplained rape
Oh... kay. . . . . . . the villian or great evil should show us how the characters in the story react and in doing so reveal their character, values, personality and interaction with other characters.
This story does none of that. It's completely hollow and thus it got cancelled in 8 chapters.
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Hiroaki is a fucking degenerate(as per usual),everything he makes has gore and rapey vibes.
@AMetroid
I strongly disagree with your metaphor sir, a more appropriate metaphor would be: "Think a vegan giving a 1/10 score to a steak house because they(the stake house staff) brought a live cow to the table then 30 guys raped the cow in front of you, then 60 guys came to rape the cow again, not only they raped the cow they burn her fingers(I know cows have no fingers, I'm losing the metaphor and I'm aware of it) and bit her goddamn nipples off, all the while making an effort to show all the suffering, in detail, then when its time to pay off they let the cow die take to a grinder, all this, while you watch a different cow going through the same thing on the table next door, while a projector shows the cow happy moments before it was tricked in coming to the stake house, and then when even your soul is dirty, near the end of the dinner the staff bring out a goddamn 5g of frozen processed meat in the shape of a charred hamburger, put it in your plate, and leave the steakhouse locking you inside. Only then you notice "Oh, it wasn't about food at all they don't give a crap about the story they just wanted to show cows suffering, and now that they are satisfied they just left... but then again I know of hiroaki other works (including doujins) what the hell was I expecting? wth are the best artist the ones with the weirdest most messed up kinks?
@AMetroid
I strongly disagree with your metaphor sir, a more appropriate metaphor would be: "Think a vegan giving a 1/10 score to a steak house because they(the stake house staff) brought a live cow to the table then 30 guys raped the cow in front of you, then 60 guys came to rape the cow again, not only they raped the cow they burn her fingers(I know cows have no fingers, I'm losing the metaphor and I'm aware of it) and bit her goddamn nipples off, all the while making an effort to show all the suffering, in detail, then when its time to pay off they let the cow die take to a grinder, all this, while you watch a different cow going through the same thing on the table next door, while a projector shows the cow happy moments before it was tricked in coming to the stake house, and then when even your soul is dirty, near the end of the dinner the staff bring out a goddamn 5g of frozen processed meat in the shape of a charred hamburger, put it in your plate, and leave the steakhouse locking you inside. Only then you notice "Oh, it wasn't about food at all they don't give a crap about the story they just wanted to show cows suffering, and now that they are satisfied they just left... but then again I know of hiroaki other works (including doujins) what the hell was I expecting? wth are the best artist the ones with the weirdest most messed up kinks?
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@Dabaha
A cow can't fear future suffering so it doesn't quite work.
Also, I get a strong sense of Darkness "rejecting" the lewd from your post.
Anyway, I still stand by my "Don't rate genres you hate according to how much you hate that genre".
And if you think this stuff is bad, you should read more interesting history books to get better calibrated.
A cow can't fear future suffering so it doesn't quite work.
Also, I get a strong sense of Darkness "rejecting" the lewd from your post.
Anyway, I still stand by my "Don't rate genres you hate according to how much you hate that genre".
And if you think this stuff is bad, you should read more interesting history books to get better calibrated.
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Good composition.
Set of vignettes that give many different perspectives, I really enjoyed the storytelling.
Set of vignettes that give many different perspectives, I really enjoyed the storytelling.
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Okay doubt anyone is going to read this since there is only 9 comments at the time of posting this, but to those who stayed to read welcome and I hope you enjoy my review. I'll first start with a more generalist approach talking about the formatting of the chapters, and the overall theme that I identified, if your not interested in that then just skip to paragraph three if you solely just want to see me tell you why I think this is shit.
The Format
Every chapter of this manga is all set in one setting and is told from the perspective of a certain character or characters. It's sort of like a collection of short stories but all in one setting. What this means is that these chapters all have individual messages that it conveys depending on which chapter you read, this format fails for this particular manga not because the format is inherently flawed but how the format was used and how the author wrote these short stories. The concept was pretty cool each protagonist for each chapter is someone of a different status in the prison, showing us their thoughts on the situation they are in.
The Message.
The author puts a lot of effort in cementing how horrible the prison is and the amount of harm and exploitation that it brings to people, both emotionally and physically. The obvious theme is the concept of for the greater good. It's brought up through the history of the prison. The prison has underwent a disastrous event through an uprising that cost the lives of many, the authorities hoping to avoid such tragedy caved in to the inmates desires and prostitute orphan girls to curb another riot, after all if the prisoners are satisfied with their conditions then an uprising won't happen again its unfortunate for the girls but its for a good cause right? The theme is explored through the experiences of the girls we see them horribly mutilated and deaths aren't an uncommon occurrence, it's readily apparent that the action the authorities took is wrong.
My Criticisms
My biggest criticism is through the end of these chapters it usually goes against the message that it displays. Take chapter six for example. Chapter six is told from the perspective of a guard. This is a particularly interesting view because it not told from the victims of the establishment but from a member of said establishment. A brief synopsis of the chapter is that a guard saves an orphan girl from committing suicide and pitying the girl sought help from his superiors, his boss is only interested in keeping the status quo, leaving the guard with the one option left, to take matters in his own hands. The theme of this is a conflict of the greater goods helping this girl here or upholding the system that supposedly prevents riot. One particular moment of this chapter that I found interesting was the guards conversation with his superior on what the better choice was. The choice being is it better to tell a sweet lie that if you last more than a week your free to leave this hellhole or tell her the truth that your here until you die. Not once did his boss consider that what they are doing in upholding the prison policy is wrong. The manga seems to agree that the former rather than the ladder is the correct assertion to make so the guard goes on a rescue mission to get that girl out, okay all good so far until you reach the end where the plan fails and the guard gets executed for treason. What! an ending like that implies that the prison was right in the theme of this chapter of a battle of for the greater good. upholding the policy or saving this girl. A lot of this chapter was doing set up for this guards character and showing how bad this policy is.
The Good ( Sort of)
What I find the most intriguing in chapter 6 is the representation of this dissenting grunt guard. The most evil people are usually told to be the masterminds of tragic events. But we don't really hear about the grunts the ones doing the actual leg work of these operations, after all these people are the ones at the bottom they are the ones who see and willingly do the most horrific actions you'll learn in school or hear on the news. Take the holocaust for example most people know about Hitler, Himmler and the likes but what I question is how those at the bottom can do the actions that these men spout, after all the men at the top just push papers they're not the ones pulling the trigger. Seeing the perspective of the dissenter and not the another member of a hive mind is what I enjoyed most about this.
@Megane2426
Judging from your comment I think that you enjoyed reading this in contrast to me, This is my first time really doing this and want to know your thoughts?
@AMetroid
Well here's a review of what I thought that doesn't have to do with an outright rejection of depictions of graphic violence. Can you give me your thoughts of my review?
The Format
Every chapter of this manga is all set in one setting and is told from the perspective of a certain character or characters. It's sort of like a collection of short stories but all in one setting. What this means is that these chapters all have individual messages that it conveys depending on which chapter you read, this format fails for this particular manga not because the format is inherently flawed but how the format was used and how the author wrote these short stories. The concept was pretty cool each protagonist for each chapter is someone of a different status in the prison, showing us their thoughts on the situation they are in.
The Message.
The author puts a lot of effort in cementing how horrible the prison is and the amount of harm and exploitation that it brings to people, both emotionally and physically. The obvious theme is the concept of for the greater good. It's brought up through the history of the prison. The prison has underwent a disastrous event through an uprising that cost the lives of many, the authorities hoping to avoid such tragedy caved in to the inmates desires and prostitute orphan girls to curb another riot, after all if the prisoners are satisfied with their conditions then an uprising won't happen again its unfortunate for the girls but its for a good cause right? The theme is explored through the experiences of the girls we see them horribly mutilated and deaths aren't an uncommon occurrence, it's readily apparent that the action the authorities took is wrong.
My Criticisms
My biggest criticism is through the end of these chapters it usually goes against the message that it displays. Take chapter six for example. Chapter six is told from the perspective of a guard. This is a particularly interesting view because it not told from the victims of the establishment but from a member of said establishment. A brief synopsis of the chapter is that a guard saves an orphan girl from committing suicide and pitying the girl sought help from his superiors, his boss is only interested in keeping the status quo, leaving the guard with the one option left, to take matters in his own hands. The theme of this is a conflict of the greater goods helping this girl here or upholding the system that supposedly prevents riot. One particular moment of this chapter that I found interesting was the guards conversation with his superior on what the better choice was. The choice being is it better to tell a sweet lie that if you last more than a week your free to leave this hellhole or tell her the truth that your here until you die. Not once did his boss consider that what they are doing in upholding the prison policy is wrong. The manga seems to agree that the former rather than the ladder is the correct assertion to make so the guard goes on a rescue mission to get that girl out, okay all good so far until you reach the end where the plan fails and the guard gets executed for treason. What! an ending like that implies that the prison was right in the theme of this chapter of a battle of for the greater good. upholding the policy or saving this girl. A lot of this chapter was doing set up for this guards character and showing how bad this policy is.
The Good ( Sort of)
What I find the most intriguing in chapter 6 is the representation of this dissenting grunt guard. The most evil people are usually told to be the masterminds of tragic events. But we don't really hear about the grunts the ones doing the actual leg work of these operations, after all these people are the ones at the bottom they are the ones who see and willingly do the most horrific actions you'll learn in school or hear on the news. Take the holocaust for example most people know about Hitler, Himmler and the likes but what I question is how those at the bottom can do the actions that these men spout, after all the men at the top just push papers they're not the ones pulling the trigger. Seeing the perspective of the dissenter and not the another member of a hive mind is what I enjoyed most about this.
@Megane2426
Judging from your comment I think that you enjoyed reading this in contrast to me, This is my first time really doing this and want to know your thoughts?
@AMetroid
Well here's a review of what I thought that doesn't have to do with an outright rejection of depictions of graphic violence. Can you give me your thoughts of my review?
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At first, I thought it was gonna be some edgy read but it ends up being kind of touching and the journalist's explanation sold me on. Yes, the ruling class is doing what it pleases since immemorial times, or well, since the division of labor took place. It was a time of war so I'm sure this was the lesser of their evils.
The story touched me for the well-written characters and the humanity that they emit because of it. Good decision to elaborate the story only around the peasants to make it relatable. Not that I'm an inmate with a broken soul waiting for his natural death, or a chick that wants to make it big in Hollywood, or a guard in a dead-end job waiting for his paycheck that will go mainly to the landlords... I'm just a mere peasant.
@Feeder Cute review, good work :)
The story touched me for the well-written characters and the humanity that they emit because of it. Good decision to elaborate the story only around the peasants to make it relatable. Not that I'm an inmate with a broken soul waiting for his natural death, or a chick that wants to make it big in Hollywood, or a guard in a dead-end job waiting for his paycheck that will go mainly to the landlords... I'm just a mere peasant.
@Feeder Cute review, good work :)
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I can't believe I managed to finish this. I'm proud of myself.
