Blue Hearts - Vol. 2 Ch. 16 - Dazzling Light
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Alright, time for a best down
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@givemersspls I agree with all your points other than the last one - while it is absolutely possible that Mizusawa could be a brilliant fighter, bringing a girl to a fight against literal rapists would not be the best idea. He's not assuming she's incapable, but rather that she has much more at risk in a worst-case scenario. Even the best fighters can be overwhelmed by numbers, and frankly in a time-limited situation I think it's reasonable to decide not to bring a high school girl to a fight. There are unavoidable physiological differences between sexes, and acting with awareness of that is conscientious, not sexist.
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Why are people arguing about Yuuhi not bringing a girl to a fight against potential rapist wtf
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@givemersspls For the first one, it could be that he has foster parents, but he's living far away from them. Also in my country for example, orphans got financial support from the state until they are at an adult age, 18, so he could be living off with that. For the third one, I saw families with houses that at the verge of crumbling, and them living day by day, while expensive electrotechnical devices were in the house, simply because they had their priorities wrong, or just paid for those with loans. For the fourth one, he can't know if she's a great fighter or not, and in both cases bringing her to a bunch of rapist just draws a huge X mark on her back. As for it being sexism or not, it is a fact that guys have generally a stronger built up body in 90% of the cases, so he'd be more foolish to bring her into a fight.
THE F WESTERNER WITH THEIR SEXIST IDEAS
HOW CAN YOU BRING A WOMAN INTO POTENTIAL RAPIST
Japan (or whole Asian) is really patriarchal since long time ago and we aware that woman (in majority) is in more need to be protected, so F off you ideas of sexist thing in here.
if you really want to change this mindset then first change the rule that family name must come from father, if you do that gender equality will come itself.
HOW CAN YOU BRING A WOMAN INTO POTENTIAL RAPIST
Japan (or whole Asian) is really patriarchal since long time ago and we aware that woman (in majority) is in more need to be protected, so F off you ideas of sexist thing in here.
if you really want to change this mindset then first change the rule that family name must come from father, if you do that gender equality will come itself.
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@givemersspls If you don't mind me asking, what previous actions and statements led you to believe that Yuuhi is sexist?
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Ehh if you know fighting you know that it's generally safe to assume a guy is a safer bet than a girl. While a very tough girl can beat most guys a very tough guy can beat *all* girls. Is it still an assumption? Yes, but when even in the UFC pound-for-pound rankings the best woman comes in at #6 it's where a betting man would put his money.
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@givemersspls Do some research on the difference of strength between the two sexes, almost all men are physically stronger than almost all women. Worth noting that we're talking about power, not pain tolerance or emotional stability or whatever else might come to mind with the word "strength". Taking her along to a situation where they'll most likely be fighting a group of men who have no qualms about sexually abusing women would be outright idiotic, not egalitarian. "What if we lose?" is a consideration, he's 100% making the right decision by not involving her precisely because she's a woman.
Also, please answer @Ghxzt 's question. Yuuhi is by no means a saint, but I've seen no real evidence that he's sexist. Your next reply basically determines whether you're serious or just a lazy troll
Also, please answer @Ghxzt 's question. Yuuhi is by no means a saint, but I've seen no real evidence that he's sexist. Your next reply basically determines whether you're serious or just a lazy troll
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@givemersspls I wasn't responding to you I was throwing in a general aside on the topic.
Though I will warn you are dangerously close to falling into a composition fallacy regarding Yuuhi's sexism.
Though I will warn you are dangerously close to falling into a composition fallacy regarding Yuuhi's sexism.
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@givemersspls np, I'm just wondering how much at this point is Hanlon's Razor fodder or actual bias?
I would find it pretty funny though if some Torako level woman mountain 2%er showed up to BJJ the rapey twats. That's got nothing to do with my femdom fetishes... nope... ¬_¬
I would find it pretty funny though if some Torako level woman mountain 2%er showed up to BJJ the rapey twats. That's got nothing to do with my femdom fetishes... nope... ¬_¬
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@givemersspls The armed forces and emergency services analogy doesn't work because the question here isn't "is she strong enough to do X", it's "is she strong enough to fight men". The difference in strength between men and women is directly relevant in this situation because she has to be able to stack up directly against men and fight them. "Are girls weaker than boys" and "are girls too weak to handle this specific situation" are the same question under these circumstances. The question here isn't about doors; it's about fighting men, it couldn't be any more relevant. Statistically speaking she is likely to be weaker than every other individual there, and there is no time to check otherwise. This is ignoring the bigger issue, which is that even if she's an exceptional fighter it would be incredibly risky to take her along considering the kind of people they're up against.
On the "reason" argument: I've seen no evidence that there's sexist reasoning behind him not taking her along for the fight, it hasn't been directly shown but logically(as in removed from any of the authors biases/what might happen next chapter) this is the safe and smart decision so there's little reason to assume malice. I went back and read your evidence for Yuuhi being sexist on the chapter 14 comment section and with all due respect, it's flimsy at best. @MacMeaties hit the mark when he said you were both putting words in the characters mouth and grasping at straws, and the idea that him buying into the most common gendered assumption of all(hitting a woman is worse than hitting a man, as the overwhelming majority of women are weaker than men) means that he's outright sexist in other situations is a reach.
Yuuhi is an idiot with more room for growth than good points, but there's nothing substantial that suggests he's a misogynist.
The right to troll is yours of course and no one can take that away from you, as long as you're aware that most people will cease to engage with you in actual discussion if you go down that road. To clarify, I'm not saying that's what you're doing here. I think you're wrong on just about every point you've made here, but you seem sincere and I can respect that even if we can't find any common ground on this topic.
On the "reason" argument: I've seen no evidence that there's sexist reasoning behind him not taking her along for the fight, it hasn't been directly shown but logically(as in removed from any of the authors biases/what might happen next chapter) this is the safe and smart decision so there's little reason to assume malice. I went back and read your evidence for Yuuhi being sexist on the chapter 14 comment section and with all due respect, it's flimsy at best. @MacMeaties hit the mark when he said you were both putting words in the characters mouth and grasping at straws, and the idea that him buying into the most common gendered assumption of all(hitting a woman is worse than hitting a man, as the overwhelming majority of women are weaker than men) means that he's outright sexist in other situations is a reach.
Yuuhi is an idiot with more room for growth than good points, but there's nothing substantial that suggests he's a misogynist.
The right to troll is yours of course and no one can take that away from you, as long as you're aware that most people will cease to engage with you in actual discussion if you go down that road. To clarify, I'm not saying that's what you're doing here. I think you're wrong on just about every point you've made here, but you seem sincere and I can respect that even if we can't find any common ground on this topic.
@givemersspls Yuuhi very clearly has no qualms about hitting men. Hell, the reason why the smart guy's in this mess is because Yuuhi decided to punch him for a petty reason. It's also stated that he gets into a decent amount of fights (presumably with other delinquents).
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its just my opinion...and not really sure whether i am right....
i think nagi sent the girl to go for seto, solely on the fact that she is a girl , and can convince seto to not commit suicide, since sexual assault is a sensitive topic, and its always better for the girl victim to talk about it to another girl rather than a boy....... i dont think nagi really considered whether the short haired girl was strong enough to fight the group or not at the moment..... he just wanted to send a girl to stop seto
and yeah please dont mind the poor english
i think nagi sent the girl to go for seto, solely on the fact that she is a girl , and can convince seto to not commit suicide, since sexual assault is a sensitive topic, and its always better for the girl victim to talk about it to another girl rather than a boy....... i dont think nagi really considered whether the short haired girl was strong enough to fight the group or not at the moment..... he just wanted to send a girl to stop seto
and yeah please dont mind the poor english
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Hey, we're 16 chapters in. Time to drop some sob stories on the audience and go do something!
I enjoyed this chapter, but at the same time, I hate that I enjoyed it because it feels so bad. Execution is on point once the author gets to the scene they want, but all the set-up building to it dragged and felt so bad.
If I hadn't known about ReLife, this would've been an instant drop. Hell, if I had started before the releases got this far, it would have been an instant drop.
On the bright side, author should be able to ride the momentum from this event to the finish. If the pacing ever drags later, they can fill it with fluff from the Seto x Youhei ship, and I won't complain. Their art and general slice of life interaction stuff is good enough for that once the characters are established.
If I hadn't known about ReLife, this would've been an instant drop. Hell, if I had started before the releases got this far, it would have been an instant drop.
On the bright side, author should be able to ride the momentum from this event to the finish. If the pacing ever drags later, they can fill it with fluff from the Seto x Youhei ship, and I won't complain. Their art and general slice of life interaction stuff is good enough for that once the characters are established.
