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@Hikari_Owari "You just want to protect people and better society as a whole? Cringe!"
Boku no Hero Academia
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@Hikari_Owari How does that disprove my point? Just because these people had more complex, morally grey motives doesn't automatically make them good people or justify their actions.
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@Rancor
My point is that's easier to cheer for the villains.
At least those had motives to be like that, while the heroes just impose their way because, well, they're heroes. (sound of mind-blowing realization)
They in any moment so far bothered in knowing what happened for them to turn into villains.
Why fix the root if I can just punch the result.
Stain is the closest thing to a hero the series had, the only who saw the big picture and Identified what needed to change.
A society saturated with heroes and still can't prevent situations that would give birth to a villain.
In no point I said they were good people.
That's you trying to prove something nobody argued against.
But neither are some of the heroes, so why they're still... heroes?
The villains have reasons to justify they being like that, the heroes just completed a course and take it as a job.
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My point is that's easier to cheer for the villains.
At least those had motives to be like that, while the heroes just impose their way because, well, they're heroes. (sound of mind-blowing realization)
They in any moment so far bothered in knowing what happened for them to turn into villains.
Why fix the root if I can just punch the result.
Endeavor is the standpoint that'll show if it's a good story or not, everyone now knows that Dabi is the result of Endeavors toxic treatment with his children.
He made Dabi, imposed his selfish desires on him, told him he wasn't good enough and made a new toy (shouto) to play with while neglecting him until he burned himself alive.
He made Dabi, imposed his selfish desires on him, told him he wasn't good enough and made a new toy (shouto) to play with while neglecting him until he burned himself alive.
Stain is the closest thing to a hero the series had, the only who saw the big picture and Identified what needed to change.
A society saturated with heroes and still can't prevent situations that would give birth to a villain.
In no point I said they were good people.
That's you trying to prove something nobody argued against.
But neither are some of the heroes, so why they're still... heroes?
The villains have reasons to justify they being like that, the heroes just completed a course and take it as a job.
I just want to see what they'll say to Toga to justify Twice's death when Hawks could've just restrained him further, but I guess killing is fine as long as the villain is the one dead...
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@Hikari_Owari Alright, you got me.
@Hikari_Owari Twice was too dangerous to stay alive, he could just make an army of all for one for example, sure they would be more fragile but the destructive power and quantity were already very scary
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@Theu
That's a lame excuse because it assume jailing him wouldn't be enough of a solution, but every other villain got jailed if not killed in combat.
Heck, by that logic even heroes with powerful quirks should be killed then, by the chance of them turning into villains at some point.
See how that excuse is lame?
That's a lame excuse because it assume jailing him wouldn't be enough of a solution, but every other villain got jailed if not killed in combat.
Heck, by that logic even heroes with powerful quirks should be killed then, by the chance of them turning into villains at some point.
See how that excuse is lame?
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Sounds like a crappy end. I'll just read doujins instead.
Sounds like a crappy end. I'll just read doujins instead.
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Why are people shitting on this when it's gotten much better since MVA?
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My two cents regarding chapter 305:
Actually got me close to tearing up.
When they spoke of murdering Shigaraki, I felt a little bit let down, because it felt like leaning towards putting Shigaraki in the position of 'ultimate unredeamable evil'. Granted, he's probably the closest to being unredeamable among all characters in this story. (I don't count AfO here, because as of right now that guy is just absurdly evil, as if there wasn't ever even a speck of humanity within him to begin with, until we get a proper backstory.)
What got me close to tears was Deku's resolution for the murder proposal. It's not 'muh, but I wanna save everyone.', it's that he goes in with the goal of saving him, but is aware of what needs to be done if it's not feasible. There's something really humane about that decision. Killing should only ever be the back-up plan, not the first solution. In such a crazy quirk filled world, chances are way higher that there's chance for redemption through super-natural means. Abandoning that avenue right from the start would be a mistake in my opinion. But there is the chance that it's not possible, so Deku mentallly preparing for that possibilty is what makes his resolution work for me.
When they spoke of murdering Shigaraki, I felt a little bit let down, because it felt like leaning towards putting Shigaraki in the position of 'ultimate unredeamable evil'. Granted, he's probably the closest to being unredeamable among all characters in this story. (I don't count AfO here, because as of right now that guy is just absurdly evil, as if there wasn't ever even a speck of humanity within him to begin with, until we get a proper backstory.)
What got me close to tears was Deku's resolution for the murder proposal. It's not 'muh, but I wanna save everyone.', it's that he goes in with the goal of saving him, but is aware of what needs to be done if it's not feasible. There's something really humane about that decision. Killing should only ever be the back-up plan, not the first solution. In such a crazy quirk filled world, chances are way higher that there's chance for redemption through super-natural means. Abandoning that avenue right from the start would be a mistake in my opinion. But there is the chance that it's not possible, so Deku mentallly preparing for that possibilty is what makes his resolution work for me.
