Concerning the US Protests and Our Rules

[MisakaxMisaka]

As someone from the USA all I'm gonna say is the officer should get the death penalty what he did is pure murder there is no other words for what he did

 

[dube]

@gatordreams16

Are you surprised MD is taking the "neutral" stance on Christian families murdered in Pakistan?
Do you realize how privileged YOU are that you never even thought about it?

Have you ever criticized mangadex for not making a stance on treatment of Uyghurs in China or are you too privileged for that?

Thousands of minority groups all around the world face discrimination much worse than Black people in the USA, but they don’t have the privilege of living in the loudest, most famous, most imperial supercountry in the history of Earth, so their voices are rarely heard. But hey, maybe they will get an article and a few retweets.

World Wide Web is not the USA. Being able to demand all the attention everywhere around the world is the epitome of privilege.
Full respect to all the people fighting with racism - everywhere.

 

[denim]

@Halo lol just sayin

 

[VIII]

@Zephyrus The condescension comes free with the reply to someone screaming bloody murder every time negrocide by negligent policeman happens. As I said, I'm not knowledgeable of the US judiciary and I don't care for petty pedantisms and technicalities because legal definitions don't apply equally regardless of where you are. So again, I say it was involuntary but hey, if you want to play online barrister and endlessly and pointlessly psychologise the supposed motives of low IQ US cops, that is certainly your prerogative. The judiciary is downstream of politics anyway so let's not pretend that it's some kind of detached, dispassionate labour of justice that is happening.

 

[Giga]

This, from the very start of this thread, is what I hate about Centrists™. They do one of two things: either ride the fence so hard it threatens to split them in two while calling everyone to either side stupid/immoral, or (in this Left-controlled era) pretend everything to their left is also "center"/"neutral", and forbid everything that isn't such or opposes it.

If you REALLY wanted to take a neutral stance, Mangadex staff (and that would be something I could respect, coming from a manga reader site, as there's a time and place for everything, especially escape) you'd have forbidden political discourse as you did except in the prescribed board, also as you did--WITHOUT slipping in political sympathies of your own. Yes, your reminding people to donate to a safe organization is exactly what I meant: there's only one political entity that's arranging, in a heavily publicized manner, for donations, and there's only one entity that needs, specifically, bail fund donations. I should find it insulting how you thought to slip that by your userbase as if they're stupid, but it doesn't come as a surprise, after all implications of what you've just done are considered.

I should be used to this sort of hypocrisy by now. It's always the same.

 

[Mr_Detective]

@BusyGrade Not. This is strictly an American issue. This has nothing to do with Asians or Europeans, or even the Africans in Africa. But thanks to social media and a bunch of brownie point whores, it managed to become bigger than it should be.
The biggest oppression that black people face, again, is from other black people. And a certain group of people who keep telling them that they will always need help in order to be able to do anything. The typical racist white men who hate black people just because they're black barely exist in positions of power anymore. You might see them in the rural South, mostly. You speak as if people are afraid of black people getting better life. No, that's not it. Empower yourself all you want, but I standby my judgement that the movement itself is hypocritical and created on a lie. I don't support virtue signaling or any form of slacktivism. People just eat it up like a bunch of sheep. I've seen this before within the last decade. X black guy gets shot by some shitty cops, people get outrage saying black lives matter, then forget about it the next month and never say a single thing about black crimes. But if you dare bring it up you're racist. Wtf?

You know why those well-armed protestors didn't get tear-gassed? Open carry laws depend on the state. And if any of them dared to open fire, burned private property, or started looting, you can be sure that the police would have fired back, black or not, and the national guards would quickly be called in to stop them. And people like you would be in favor of it. I've seen well-armed black protestors among them, too, and they didn't get singled out.

I'm not against black people getting a better life. I'm against the lie that they were fed and believe in.

@DewiAdriyanti Not too hot where I am yet. Today is actually quite cool.
No guava... I'll take mango and shrimp salt.

 

[VIII]

@Giga Calm down, Jreg, we're already all on board with either Catholic monarchy or distributism here.

 

[Halo]

@MisakaxMisaka
Good solution, surely this would pacify the cops.

 

[VIII]

@Halo Yeah, can you imagine being a policeman in the US, having to face an absurd death toll dealing with minorities, having to tip toe around them to avoid getting the department in trouble, and now also having to risk death from your employer if you fuck up. Fuck being a policeman, it's way easier being a looter or a EDIT: [minority who commits crimes and is perpetually absolved by media].

 

[Zephyrus]

@VIII
We don't use racist dog-whistles such as "jogger" on MD. Knock it off.

 

[BusyGrade]

@Kaulu I can agree that there are actions and events throughout the world that are harrowing and are clear examples of suffering. But this is not an argument as to which event is much more harrowing than another. You imply that we cannot see clear oppression and suffering in the United States, but I must disagree, we have seen suffering and wickedness for decades. We can see that the killing of unarmed, defenseless black men is racially motivated, in fact there is a history of it. If we are to wait for each perpetrator to admit that their crimes were racially charged, we would be patient forever. Time and time again we have seen the same event happen over and over again, now is the time. If one is uncomfortable with witnessing the relevancy of the protests, the decrying of slavery in Africa, or criticism against Chinese government, there is something awful to be said about their character. We all will be able to relax when there is freedom and equality among all.

 

[Sep10trion]

Hmmm. No one seems to reply to my salient points. I wonder why this story doesn’t get much airtime:
https://www.kmov.com/news/march-held-to-honor-police-captain-david-dorn-who-was-killed-by-looters/article_dde8548c-a6a7-11ea-8b9b-4f295af97ab2.html

 

[comfy_officeworker]

@bedis reporting in!

 

[PantsMan]

@Plykiya Good post. Since this topic was inevitably gonna start cropping up here regardless, you did the right move by reinforcing the rules and preemptively giving it a containment thread as an outlet for the discussion/venting.

 

[VIII]

@Zephyrus It's not a "dog-whistle", I thought that I was clear about what I was communicating. But in anyway I respect your moderation and have edited the offending post to translate in exact words what I was saying. Please be so kind as to unmoderate it.

 

[dereth]

Posting a link to donate for the sake of bailing out the rioters? How is that not taking a stance? You should have simply declared that people take political discussions elsewhere and end the post there.

 

[Zephyrus]

@VIII
I'm not sure how you think that snarky edit is any better.

No.

 

[Mr_Detective]

@Sep10trion Not enough ratings and goes against a certain narrative.

This post has been moderated.

STOP! Everyone, stop! Wait until mods go to bed, then you can post whatever you want!

 

[PantsMan]

@dereth Agree with the link, but you know just telling people to not talk politics won't do anything other than encourage pot stirring in actual manga comment sections. A big sitewide notification does a much better job of diverting discussion into this disposable thread and allows them to cover their asses ban-wise.

 

[VIII]

@Zephyrus Aye, it's certainly snarky, I freely admit it, and ultimately the joke is on me for antagonising the moderation so I'm not pretending I'm some kind of victim here. But that post is exactly what I wish to communicate and I don't think I'm a racist or a dog-whistler(?) for expressing non-violent opinions. At least I'm not calling for capital punishment for public officials. Food for thought.