Goodnight Punpun - Vol. 6 Ch. 59

[The5thSeraph]

@TheBigBadBone
The usual risky way: getting hold of the wrist holding the knife. There are a few ways to achieve that, but they're all pretty obvious, right?

And on a completely unrelated note, it does seem that the more comments I make anywhere on this site, the more notifications I end up getting over time. And not like on a lot of other sites where there is a specific linear order to everything, and comments on anything other than the last page will go ignored almost forever, it actually seems to happen quite frequently here. Hmm.
Oh, you don't need to pay attention to this paragraph. This was me just thinking out loud.

 

[alexthestupidn]

@The5thSeraph You ever take a stroll at the wrong part of town and got mugged? or at least come face to face with someone with a knife?

it would take a while until your brain could process the what's happening and you only have a short window of time to think of what to do, at that point you don't really think about anything else other than how to keep yourself (or someone else) safe and out of harm's way

so yeah wife pulls out knife, threaten to kill son and self, hubby panics, beat wife to stop doing it, he's not a mind reader, nobody sane would yank out a knife and say those horrible things for no reason, pretty legit if you ask me

 

[The5thSeraph]

@alexthestupidn
Not a knife specifically. I've been in a couple of pub-fights and got mobbed by council estate thugs and smacked over the head with a wooden post.

it would take a while until your brain could process the what's happening and you only have a short window of time to think of what to do, at that point you don't really think about anything else other than how to keep yourself (or someone else) safe and out of harm's way

That assumes they're immediately rushing you with it. If they're not then you have a moment to think and respond appropriately, as is the case here.

 

[alexthestupidn]

@The5thSeraph Well she was swinging a knife around and you don't have to be rushed at, someone just need to threaten your wellbeing (sorry if weird translation) to the point that your body moved on it's own, here we call it "temporary insanity" (can't find a better translation), since it's common for people to temporarily loses their ability to think clearly when threatened, you might be a bit different if you could disarm someone calmly at that situation, but it's more common than you think for people to make mistakes during this situation, in fact it is expected and understood to a point. To a point, as in it's usually not questioned unless it's an act of excessive self defence.

 

[The5thSeraph]

@alexthestupidn
Mistakes like smacking someone with a microwave?
Y'know, if you were in actual danger, I don't think you'd even have time to smack someone with a microwave. They ain't exactly lightweight.

Anyhow, I'm not sure if I've experienced what you're describing accurately or not, as in almost every single situation where I've been involved in violent conflicts, I was drunk. Also I totally lost most of them, but didn't particularly care because I was drunk so I could barely feel it. Actually I'm pretty sure things always get worse like that because when people start attacking me when I'm drunk, I tend to start laughing because I don't really feel it, and then they get pissed off because I'm laughing... and so on.
So yeah, even if I distinctly remember needing a few moments to get my thoughts together, that was pretty much the alcohol.

Still, I don't regard it as a reasonable nor appropriate response, NOR the sort of thing one could merely do reflexively. And I reckon if there was a free moment to think things through where nothing immediately pressing happened (which there would be because the woman in question was just being melodramatic), that there would be plenty of opportunities to disarm her.

 

[alexthestupidn]

@The5thSeraph They don't have to be in an immediate threat per se, just have to feel threatened enough (punpun mama swinging a knife wildly in the vicinity of punpun papa), i think in most cases if the full story were to be revealed to the court, the court would understand punpun papa's action, which implies that punpun papa actually refrained from telling the full story either from guilt, or to avoid social services getting involved.

"My mentally unstable wife was swinging a kitchen knife around and threatening to kill herself and our son, panicked, i knocked her out with the closest object to me at the time, a microwave"

I think that passes as a defense on most cases and personally i find punpun papa's action to be quite realistic and normal for most people, of course not everyone act, react, and think the same.

 

[The5thSeraph]

@alexthestupidn
I can't even imagine regarding a microwave oven as something to just pick up and weaponise even under the most extreme circumstances. I mean sure I CAN pick mine up and move it, with both hands, but besides the point where it needs to be moved to somewhere else, I subconsciously regard it as a static part of the room. I might as well try to weaponise the wardrobe... or the door... or the floor.
Maybe you don't. Who knows? It seems grossly unnatural to me though to bash someone over the head with a heavy kitchen appliance, even as a panic response.