Is It Odd That I Became an Adventurer Even If I Graduated From the Witchcraft Institute? - Vol. 3 Ch. 12

@wakanana
That's what justifying the means is.
LOL no it isn't. Not even close. Here are some dictionary definitions for you.
Justify - show or prove to be right or reasonable.
Means - something that helps a person to get what he or she wants.
To "justify the means" is to show or prove that the method used in the pursuit of some goal was right or reasonable.

Case in point, I live (as every non-native of the USA does) on land stolen from the native people of North America. I live on land stolen through genocide. That wasn't my choice (I didn't even exist) and I completely condemn was what done. It was wrong. It was evil. Totally non justifiable. But still it has already occurred, and I can do nothing about it. I live my life the best I can. Which is me making the best of a very bad thing which has already happened.

I do not go about committing mass arson, salting the earth, generally trying to destroy this nation, etc. Is that what you'd have me do?! And as a point of fact, no one has a line of ancestry whose hands are entirely clean. Your very existence is one result of this. But none of us can change what was done. We can only try to control what happens moving forward. If you can do good unto others, do good unto others. Attempting to do good now is no justification of the past, but it is absolutely the right thing to do.

I will never value your faux righteousness - based upon symbolism at the core and divorced from real world impact/consequence. It does not and cannot make the world a better place. The world is better off without it.
 
@bk3k actions prove beliefs more than words do. To use research made by killing people is to justify how that research came into existence. Morality doesn't depend on mere convenience. Destroying the undead research was the right thing to do.
 
There's an old NOVA program that was basically a point/counter-point about using the records out of WWII... one part basically gave a situation, asked your opinion on if the data obtained should be used, then tried to sway your opinion on the next page: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/holocaust/experiments.html

But even outside of the extreme example of Holocaust data, there are plenty of other examples that have possibly even longer reaching effects: Some of the tissue from Henrietta Lacks' cancer examination was used, without permission or compensation, for medical research. By some estimates, there are over 100,000 medical research papers derived from that biopsy, and some of the developments directly related include the polio vaccine, HPV vaccine, chemotherapy, and a huge swatch of HIV treatments... to some extent, probably all major medical research performed in the last few decades were impacted by her cells.

“A decision to use the data should not be made without regret or without acknowledging the incomprehensible horror that produced them. We cannot imply any approval of the methods. Nor, however, should we let the inhumanity of the experiments blind us to the possibility that some good may be salvaged from the ashes.”
 
"Right, rather than thinking about something complicated, Mii prefers doing simple stuff like this" - said while literally burning books.

Freaking Commie-talk, for real.
 
@Harvester Ty, saving this(“A decision to use the data should not be made without regret or without acknowledging the incomprehensible horror that produced them. We cannot imply any approval of the methods. Nor, however, should we let the inhumanity of the experiments blind us to the possibility that some good may be salvaged from the ashes.”) for a rainy day. Wise words.

My thoughts on the matter if not obvious is that the burning was a mistake and banning anything from it is just going to make people want to do it again. The attrocieties have already been commited, why not see if theres anything in the papers that DONT require killing someone or bringing back someones soul etc, there might be some usefull information that can be applied to healing magics or golem magics that could only be figured out through such horrible means that could be the only way of saving lives in the future.

If i died from something horrible and my death could help my offspring or friends, fuck yeah spread my corpse/autopsy info around!

TLDR Its a service to the dead and sticks it to the bastard(s) that did the evil(s) to use the knoledge for something other than what had happened and better society.
 
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The ending of this arc felt really unsatisfactory to me.

They didn't really have to murder her. She should've brought to justice (where she could've even tried to explain the shit she did) among the Goldard guy.. Also, we didn't even get explanation what happened to him eventually..? (if it doesn't happen on the next chapter that is).

Also burning her research material just like that. What a huge waste of countless of hours of research. And what a huge waste of talent. She could've been put into forced labor, researching something useful stuff for the kingdom etc, for X-number of years to earn her freedom.
 

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