Kenja no Deshi wo Nanoru Kenja - Vol. 8 Ch. 42
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@Dragou I was talking about the "I Don't Really Get It, but It Looks Like I Was Reincarnated in Another World" you mentioned. I don't know if there is any real romance at all, but judging by a cursory search, most of the resources were just limited to the ecchi tag.
Okay, I'll wait. The only thing I found was jokes about their "date" in the discussion of the 6th volume and its cover.
Okay, I'll wait. The only thing I found was jokes about their "date" in the discussion of the 6th volume and its cover.
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You mean that. It is under the name "Yoku Wakaranai keredo Isekai ni Tensei Shiteita You Desu", where she is still only interested in girls and there is obvious inclinations but no direct actions yet which made it doesnt have the yuri tag even though the whole acting of the mc is clearly towards yuri. (Which also helped is most likely that besides the manga the rest is on undetermined hiatus.)
Besides that it wont change the facts I told you about this story .... besides the direct chapters from the author which is the source is always more reliable than some japanese fans and wikis.
Besides that it wont change the facts I told you about this story .... besides the direct chapters from the author which is the source is always more reliable than some japanese fans and wikis.
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@Dragou I've already noticed how you interpret things quite fluently, so before I can see something tangible in the form of a scene and a quote, I will trust the Japanese wiki more, which has always been quite honest about such matters. I already had the experience of communicating with people who said that their opinion was confirmed by the source, but it turned out that they were simply confusing their reading with the original text.
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@Dragou
Please stop. He said he is going to hold back any notions or theories about their relationship being anything more than platonic until he sees it with his own eyes. Respect his stance here. He has been doing that for you for the most part.
He has said that if you think that sentence in the LN proves it he isn't gonna stop you, just that he isn't going to buy it.
If you continue you are going to look like a person that forces someone to agree with you via pressuring them to agree. Which is worth shit all.
Let it happen naturally. Either he encounters that proof and agrees with it or he won't. Simple as that. You aren't gonna change his opinion.
Please stop. He said he is going to hold back any notions or theories about their relationship being anything more than platonic until he sees it with his own eyes. Respect his stance here. He has been doing that for you for the most part.
He has said that if you think that sentence in the LN proves it he isn't gonna stop you, just that he isn't going to buy it.
If you continue you are going to look like a person that forces someone to agree with you via pressuring them to agree. Which is worth shit all.
Let it happen naturally. Either he encounters that proof and agrees with it or he won't. Simple as that. You aren't gonna change his opinion.
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@Elmithian Well, if the guy does find an original scene or quote, then I'll be grateful. I love to study the original before the anime, even if it makes me salty or shows that I was wrong about something. I'm new to this title, so this question even intrigues me lol.
@SuperOniichan The line is in volume 3 chapter 12, though I only have the translations to go on as I'm not proficient enough with Japanese to find the exact line for you in the original. It's difficult to mistake the importance of a character referring to another character as their spouse however.
Edit: Also in the chapter Mira is very clearly attracted to Mariana, though trying to suppress her attraction so she doesn't violate Mariana's trust. So pretty safe to say this could go both ways.
Edit: Also in the chapter Mira is very clearly attracted to Mariana, though trying to suppress her attraction so she doesn't violate Mariana's trust. So pretty safe to say this could go both ways.
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@SuperOniichan Well here's a url. https://krytykal.org/kenja/volume-3/c12/
I make no claims as to the veracity of this translation btw, though that should just be a given for any unofficial translation, and many official translations for that matter.
I make no claims as to the veracity of this translation btw, though that should just be a given for any unofficial translation, and many official translations for that matter.
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I see kodoge found it before me. The point where she is explicity asked isnt translated yet, therefore finding it is much harder.
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@Elmithian what did bother me a bit is the thing that his statement (until he made it clearer in his latest reply to me) was basically: fans and wiki > source directly from the author. I have it in several "communities" where people have theire own opinions > stated fact from the author.
Which is a point that is obviously wrong.
Now that he stated his reason I can understand this and I let him believe what he wants anyway but stating things which is wrong, is still bad. That was my whole point.
As someone, who writes himself, that had more than once the situation where people wanted to argue about stated facts in my own created world and characters I may be a bit more easily annoyed about such statements than other people.
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@Elmithian what did bother me a bit is the thing that his statement (until he made it clearer in his latest reply to me) was basically: fans and wiki > source directly from the author. I have it in several "communities" where people have theire own opinions > stated fact from the author.
Which is a point that is obviously wrong.
Now that he stated his reason I can understand this and I let him believe what he wants anyway but stating things which is wrong, is still bad. That was my whole point.
As someone, who writes himself, that had more than once the situation where people wanted to argue about stated facts in my own created world and characters I may be a bit more easily annoyed about such statements than other people.
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@KoDoge Hmm. How old was MC when he was isekaed? It's like I read a chapter from Lolita or another imouto title. A very specific topic about "forbidden desires", which I instantly recognize when reading a couple of sentences.
@Dragou I am willing to admit that I am wrong if I see good arguments and evidence, and not just "you are wrong because I am right".
@Dragou I am willing to admit that I am wrong if I see good arguments and evidence, and not just "you are wrong because I am right".
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@SuperOniichan First I told you about this here which was entirely denied and sry that I have a life besides the internet (like work) and cant provide sources from several hundred chapters within a short time.
Secondly as far I remember it was never stated how old the MC was, just that he partly behaved and spoke like an old man, but some other points/hints could him beeing in his early to mid 20s. Therefore we dont have a real clue about his actual age.
Secondly as far I remember it was never stated how old the MC was, just that he partly behaved and spoke like an old man, but some other points/hints could him beeing in his early to mid 20s. Therefore we dont have a real clue about his actual age.
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@Dragou Well, @KoDoge came up with a pretty clear English translation pretty quickly and that was a pretty good argument. I do not require you to drop everything and prove something to some asshole on the Internet, but I argued with all kinds of people for too long to believe them without checking their words.
I ask about age, because his (her?) fears about "desires" are so psychological, as if the second girl is his sister or adopted daughter.
I ask about age, because his (her?) fears about "desires" are so psychological, as if the second girl is his sister or adopted daughter.
But their dialogue in general doesn't look like yuri is a problem. Then why is he afraid?
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@SuperOniichan
Doesn't have to be sister or daughter. It just have to be any kind of relationship where that isn't expected. Even friends, particularly if it's a long relationship based on trust, and if those kind of things were never mentioned before, then it may seem like abusing the other's trust to onesidedly stare at them naked. The fear may be of losing their relationship, I guess. "Mira herself did her best not to see Mariana, who trusted her, in that kind of way and had her gaze wander around".
Doesn't have to be sister or daughter. It just have to be any kind of relationship where that isn't expected. Even friends, particularly if it's a long relationship based on trust, and if those kind of things were never mentioned before, then it may seem like abusing the other's trust to onesidedly stare at them naked. The fear may be of losing their relationship, I guess. "Mira herself did her best not to see Mariana, who trusted her, in that kind of way and had her gaze wander around".
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This is definitely my favourite Isekai~
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I mean, it's a perfectly common reaction in any ecchi story for the wimp protagonist to think that they must not watch the girl who is clearly naked on purpose. Shyness and inexperience with women? Scoring point with the audience? Not to mention that Mariana by now is at the very least 30 yo, due to the time passed since they last saw each other. It really didn't seem an incest/loli thing to me.
