Release That Witch - Ch. 59 - Hermes' Nucleus
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@WillTell
core and Nucleus are synonyms in this case so it's really no difference in this case.
the big difference between the word nucleus or core comes depending if you use it as a noun or as a adjective. as a Core in a part of a fruit while Nucleus is a part of an atom.
in the light novel translation i read, they used "pivotal" to describe the area.
what's important in this case is that you need to communicate that this place they are talking about is the "center of importance" and not the physical center.
this is why i think "Pivotal" is arguably better then Nucleus as a description as it by definition is something that is at the "center of importance" but not necessary physically at the center unlike other synonyms that could have been used like core, nucleus or kernel.
but again.... potatoes patatas.
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there is basically none in this case.
core and Nucleus are synonyms in this case so it's really no difference in this case.
the big difference between the word nucleus or core comes depending if you use it as a noun or as a adjective. as a Core in a part of a fruit while Nucleus is a part of an atom.
in the light novel translation i read, they used "pivotal" to describe the area.
what's important in this case is that you need to communicate that this place they are talking about is the "center of importance" and not the physical center.
this is why i think "Pivotal" is arguably better then Nucleus as a description as it by definition is something that is at the "center of importance" but not necessary physically at the center unlike other synonyms that could have been used like core, nucleus or kernel.
but again.... potatoes patatas.
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R there is basically none in this case.
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Author's ideas in this novel are disgusting.
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My problem with this series is that anything not directly showing Roland or the Witches staying with him are awful.
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Dude, every one, other than MC and his friends, is a massive asshole. I know that we need villains, but a guy pimping out minors after whipping them for crying in back of a cart where they are getting trafficked in the dead of winter? Is this like that time with Fairy Tail when all villains would end up becoming friends and each new villain had to be worse than the last just so we couldn't expect? We even got to the point where the villain said they killed their own parents. What is going to happens next? A pope that goes kidnapping, raping, drugging and killing a little girl while promising the older brother, also a minor, to look after her?
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@MarceloYuri the past MC is asshole too you know
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@Kayriel
To be fair, you'd really only see that in a SoL stories. Because having the main power backing civilization being strong and whole and wholesome doesn't leave much room for conflict that an MC needs to be created to step in and 'fix' the country/world/etc. I suppose you could have the nations are bad and the church is good, but that's not really a japanese thing. Chinese I feel like monks vs nations is fairly common in wuxia, but not really a 'western' church.
To be fair, you'd really only see that in a SoL stories. Because having the main power backing civilization being strong and whole and wholesome doesn't leave much room for conflict that an MC needs to be created to step in and 'fix' the country/world/etc. I suppose you could have the nations are bad and the church is good, but that's not really a japanese thing. Chinese I feel like monks vs nations is fairly common in wuxia, but not really a 'western' church.
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@Goldenzeal
General spoilers @all on the Church Roland will eventually be clued into
yeah, given that the Church is following a plan to try to save humanity from extinction, they could be considered 'good' guys in that sense. However, they are pretty horrific in their approach, so not so much.
General spoilers @all on the Church Roland will eventually be clued into
as someone pointed out, the Church is sort of following a strategy laid down by the previous "war of racial genocide"'s losing leaders (all witches), one of whom came up with a last ditch idea after they lost and were retreating to this corner of the continent, and from that idea the Church was born (to create a new army for the next war). Unfortunately, their normal human followers decided it was the witches who lost the war, brought about a coup and bastardized the church's message to blame witches for everything, even coming up with a bullshit mythos to justify things. Of course, conveniently ignoring history that the 1st war, where the witches and humans worked together and it was the humans who constantly were convinced by the demons to save their own skin by turning on the witches; hence the witches decided to take complete leadership control for the 2nd war (and still lost).
Right now, the entire backbone of the true conflict is missing. The Church PoVs are for laying out how the Church has been going about setting things up for them to take over and 'save humanity' (of which if it did go their way humanity would be completely f@#ked), even if the leadership and much of the mid level people are total scum (power corrupts, inhuman actions corrupts, and attracts evil minded people who like what they secretly hear about, etc). It'll take some time before Roland begins learning about all this backstory, 'cause none of the normal witches are knowledgeable about this. The early arcs are just Roland vs demon beasts, Roland vs the nobility, Roland vs his siblings, and then Roland vs the Church, with these 'out of place' plot points coming up in the Church PoV chapters that clue the reader in to all these upcoming hidden conflicts (until the witch Agatha shows up, Chapter 317/~1500)
Right now, the entire backbone of the true conflict is missing. The Church PoVs are for laying out how the Church has been going about setting things up for them to take over and 'save humanity' (of which if it did go their way humanity would be completely f@#ked), even if the leadership and much of the mid level people are total scum (power corrupts, inhuman actions corrupts, and attracts evil minded people who like what they secretly hear about, etc). It'll take some time before Roland begins learning about all this backstory, 'cause none of the normal witches are knowledgeable about this. The early arcs are just Roland vs demon beasts, Roland vs the nobility, Roland vs his siblings, and then Roland vs the Church, with these 'out of place' plot points coming up in the Church PoV chapters that clue the reader in to all these upcoming hidden conflicts (until the witch Agatha shows up, Chapter 317/~1500)
@Moridin69
I mean, you could. Easily. Look at all the isekai where heroes are summoned by a church to fight the demon king, and it turns out the demon king is the good guy. The bait and switch has become cliche. Actually being summoned to help the holy church fight the demon king would be fresh and new at this point.
You don't get to see something like an angel in manga unless it's more evil than the most ugly, twisted devil there is. Or it's a total pushover and needs the MC's help to even stand up long enough to be knocked down with one of its own feathers.
Just gets kind of annoying and cliche. Yes, evil darkness powers, so much 'cooler' and better than the powers that are meant to represent righteousness and the protection of the weak and innocent through self-sacrifice and bravery.
I mean, you could. Easily. Look at all the isekai where heroes are summoned by a church to fight the demon king, and it turns out the demon king is the good guy. The bait and switch has become cliche. Actually being summoned to help the holy church fight the demon king would be fresh and new at this point.
You don't get to see something like an angel in manga unless it's more evil than the most ugly, twisted devil there is. Or it's a total pushover and needs the MC's help to even stand up long enough to be knocked down with one of its own feathers.
Just gets kind of annoying and cliche. Yes, evil darkness powers, so much 'cooler' and better than the powers that are meant to represent righteousness and the protection of the weak and innocent through self-sacrifice and bravery.
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@Kayriel
I'm not saying its not completely cliche at this point for the stereotypical good guys (church and angels) to be the bad guys. I'm saying if there's nothing wrong with the church or the angels (specifically I was going with them being "actually good, holy, and strong"), and they've been powerful enough in the past to 'hold down the fort', then why does the 'story' need an 'MC'? Of course, you can always make the reason a new element got added to the world and they no longer are strong enough, there are a few of those.
I'd certainly be okay with some more recent stories where the powerful 'good guy' organizations aren't corrupt or cartoonishly evil to balance they scales. Just recently outmatched / getting outsmarted, or at worse got complacent. The good guys who are supposed to be dealing with the things the MC exists to deal with being secretly (or obviously) bad is just easy to world build around, and is often part of the wish fulfillment (the MC gets to 'fix' the world & civilization, not just dues ex the bad guy and say "carry on, you were doing great otherwise!")
I'm not saying its not completely cliche at this point for the stereotypical good guys (church and angels) to be the bad guys. I'm saying if there's nothing wrong with the church or the angels (specifically I was going with them being "actually good, holy, and strong"), and they've been powerful enough in the past to 'hold down the fort', then why does the 'story' need an 'MC'? Of course, you can always make the reason a new element got added to the world and they no longer are strong enough, there are a few of those.
I'd certainly be okay with some more recent stories where the powerful 'good guy' organizations aren't corrupt or cartoonishly evil to balance they scales. Just recently outmatched / getting outsmarted, or at worse got complacent. The good guys who are supposed to be dealing with the things the MC exists to deal with being secretly (or obviously) bad is just easy to world build around, and is often part of the wish fulfillment (the MC gets to 'fix' the world & civilization, not just dues ex the bad guy and say "carry on, you were doing great otherwise!")
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Also, if I remember right
The demons have buttfucked humanity into a very small corner. They’ve essentially terraformed most of the land to produce gas enabling them to breathe. The church and the kingdom are the last holdouts; though with this upcoming magitech industrial revolution finally allowing pushback against them. And I’m pretty sure the demons are all a united front while humans still need to get their shit together.
It's all a fight for survival as we've seen the demons are real and the church knows about them already apparently so they designed the gods warriors(Mindless superhuman warriors) to counter them. However there will always be scumbags who try and turn profits for themselves by exploiting others. Many people disconnect from pain and suffering, as long as it isn't linked to them, for instance if one of the churches emissary had a daughter and she succumbed to the "devils power," unless the character was being portrayed as a heartless psychopath they would try and hide their child and protect them.
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Well that took a turn
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-Getting mad when the Church is evil.
Aww shit here we go again.
Aww shit here we go again.
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ik theyre bad guys i dont need to see a child rape scene plz ty
