@lizardshack
>implying that a lot of men don't read yuri to fetishize lesbians
Lol. Implied nothing of the sort, it's just your bias (and something else) speaking.
(not to mention it really doesn't have anything to do with topic at hand - you just wanted to write such statement, didn't you? it adds to martyrdom narratives, both of external and internal kind
but if I were to engage this sad attempt at 'rhetoric', as 'countepoints' I would've mentioned things like the fact that lots of self proclaimed 'straight' girls also 'fetishize lesbians', either by reading yuri or watching explicit sapphic porn ; maybe I'd have even brought up that significant chunk of women who are "out" engage in creation and consumption of different sorts of yaoi fiction, or that they admit to watching mtm gay porn on regular basis.
I won't though, just wanted to outline how idiotic that type of 'arguing' would've been)
>implying that's what I meant when you know damn well it wasn't and avoided pointing out Tazune's overwhelming negative traits
Above^2. It fits nicely with what I'd pointed out - group's in-story avatar must always have moral upper hand, because otherwise "feels bad man" and "negative public portrayal".
I did not "avoid" anything. It's been acknowledged at least hundred times already in comment threads related to this manga. "Hundreds" is probably more accurate estimation given the in-built bias and inherent sexism of fandom though.
If you want to unironically empathize with a pathological physical/mental abuser, then that's your deal.
Ah, so now we're heading onto character assassination part of semantic tree of this conversation. You must distort my alleged ethical standards and make me into 2d "x-ist y-phobic moral scum" caricature (it doesn't have to be that bad, anything below how you personally rate yourself and your 'sisters' will do) , so you could easily dismiss uncomfortable points on ad hominem basis.
But even if I were all those bad things you like to imagine people different from you to be (which I'm not), that still wouldn't necessarily make me wrong. <Pickyourvillain> pointing out that "earth is round" is still correct despite what you might happen to personally think of
him (and yes, I know it's 'him" for you).
I don't see you lambasting Tazune's prior cheating on his partners, nor all of his psychological manipulation.
Same as the above. Singled it out to say "nice whataboutism dude".
But hey, two can play this game. Wasn't he sexually abused by some
gals in the past? Seems like there were three of them, so at least 'abusing" his first three partners after that would make it okay, right? He's a victim after all.
(don't answer, just wanted to put your bias on display and show how ridiculous that way of compartmentalized thinking is)
Also, imagine ignoring the fact that Midori was the primary (if not the only) person contributing to the wedding fund, as, up until the point in the story where he literally hit her, Tazune has shown no interest in the wedding at all
The shit? Point me out to source pages, because I remember nothing of the sort being suggested.