Sengoku Komachi Kuroutan: Noukou Giga - Vol. 2 Ch. 8 - Cultivation

[beleth]

i want to eat musjroom

 

[Panino]

@Aichan
Shizuko is doing things at a scientific level, because she is a scholar from present times. But you don't need to apply advanced science to obtain plenty of progress, many of the things she is doing is actually very simple. With farming techniques so primitive every single thing is an improvement.
And you underestimate how fast those "tanegashima" spread through the temples.

"Later in the Sengoku period, the warlords were able to make their own gunpowder, but that's years in the future."

Those two muskets arrived at Tanegashima with the portuguese in 1543.
Nobunaga placed an order of 500 just six years latter in 1549.
In just ten years thousands had already be made.

 

[welcome2atlantis]

Ah, okay. I now know what I want for lunch today. Mwe he he.

 

[Pyoro]

@Panino But the manga also readily ignores a lot of problems she might run into. Like, where's she getting all the free labor to chop those farms for mushrooms? To clear that part of the forest and keep it cleared? You telling me those farmers don't have enough work? And even if you have that covered, where do you get all the mushrooms in the first place? Getting a patch like that sounds to me like it'd take years and good fortune (again, bad weather, parasites, etc can easily ruin your crops even when you do everything right); it's not like you can put 1 mushroom somewhere and if the conditions are good a year later you have a forest of the freaking things ... or maybe I'm wrong about that. But we cultivated some mushrooms for a while (field mushrooms; it was more "for fun") and it certainly wasn't like this ^^

@Aichan A lot of that is romantized and idealized though. It's true you got those crazy nutcases where people kill themselves just to show their loyalty and so on, but specifically in the Sengoku period you also have everyone betray everyone else left and right, violating agreements and alliances whenever it suited them, going against established codes of conducts, and just generally being backstabbing opportunists. Personally I'd have a hard time coming up with a war/wars that involves less "honorable" protagonists than the Sengoku period in terms of pure loyalty to the sides chosen.
Doesn't mean it was a good idea to "besmirch someone's honor", but let's be honest, they were as much about power and survival as people always are, overall.

 

[Panino]

@Pyoro
"Suspension of Disbelief"

@Pyoro @Aichan
That "gentil" war died with the Heian period.
Much of the "bushido" we know was propaganda pushed but the Tokugawa Shogunate.

 

[Zael]

@miyako19 sure, but at this point everyone should be recognizing that she's much more valuable than friendly ties to some other daimyo. Her being from the future should make her pedigree higher if anything, as she's quite unique in that regard. (As far as we know.) And like other folks have been saying in this thread, during this era they pretty much did as they wanted. Especially those in power.

 

[Panino]

I had an ideia... what if someone else from the future is also there and doing the same things Shizuko is doing for other damiyo?
They would eventually clash, and then that book about weapons would come into place after all, who was the owner of that book? Surely not Shizuko, and must have a reason why that book went to the past, like, that hypotetical second time traveler could be a military student.

 

[ShimizuA]

@Panino

the book is hers. she bought it for her sis before time slipped. The bag and the book was lost when she chased by bandit for the first time

 

[Panino]

@ShimizuA
I wasn't sure about this and didn't wanted to reread.
What her sister study? There's a reason for that book?

 

[ShimizuA]

@Panino
Her sister is a military buff. She just asked Shizuko to buy it on her way home.

BTW, Shizuko herself is a history buff.

 

[scripted]

Hahhaah her doggo's

 

[KarrotKakes]

My heart melted

 

[Mojo]

Right now she is the goose that lays the golden eggs. Like with the shiitake mushrooms, she may not even realize the full value of the things she knows so forcing her to tell all she thinks she knows that's valuable is kind of counter productive. It's obvious Nobu and the rest are very intelligent and don't really need her, but an army marches on it's stomach, so securing a large food production source makes everything he does military wise easier. Some wars in the past have even been fought over obtaining good arable lands. Most wars are about resources, I mean do you think any one would care as much about the Middle East conflicts if it wasn't for the oil?

 

[Midnight_Sloth]

Gay rights!

 

[Flyingpantsu]

Shiitake janai !
-Noire

 

[UnknownSaint111]

WTF. She practically spilled the beans on where she's from...

 

[Grimmycoffee]

Aya-chan kawaii~!

 

[mytosis]

omg imagine thinking matsutake is inFerior in Any way >:000

also i love that they're vibing :)

 

[timestop17]

OOP nevermind just your average watcher the handmaiden just being careful

 

[dferas]

that's right bitch! i've got 2 fucking grey wolves protecting my secret box! you better not try to open it!