Sengoku Komachi Kuroutan: Noukou Giga - Vol. 5 Ch. 25 - Outcome
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I didn't even know there were different varieties of cotton!
And who's this ikemen?
And who's this ikemen?
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@criver
What exactly is so stupid about what she's doing? Sure, she's helping a lord fight his wars, but wars are inevitable and they would have been fought even without her. Unless she suddenly reveals how to construct nuclear reactors, she's doing more good than bad by improving standards of living and advancing technology along with the people's perspective on it, especially among the lords who would now be more inclined to care about those two things.
What exactly is so stupid about what she's doing? Sure, she's helping a lord fight his wars, but wars are inevitable and they would have been fought even without her. Unless she suddenly reveals how to construct nuclear reactors, she's doing more good than bad by improving standards of living and advancing technology along with the people's perspective on it, especially among the lords who would now be more inclined to care about those two things.
no need to ponder much about the justification for Shizuko's actions
at this point it's pretty clear the author just wants to make a good fantasy wank story about "what if modern inventions were used in historical times", handling complicated logic behind consequences from time travelling is not their priority
not complaining though
at this point it's pretty clear the author just wants to make a good fantasy wank story about "what if modern inventions were used in historical times", handling complicated logic behind consequences from time travelling is not their priority
not complaining though
@NazrinMaus She's doing a fair bit more than just improving the standards of living, unnecessarily at that.
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@criver
I'm still struggling to see what could be evil about any of her actions, even through butterfly effect. The only thing I can think of is that Oda gets a bit insane later in his life, and granting him more power for that point might be bad? But that insanity could be avoided. Or maybe Japan would be too powerful for WW2 and slap USA? But WW2 might not even pan out like that if Japan is so heavily altered.
I'm still struggling to see what could be evil about any of her actions, even through butterfly effect. The only thing I can think of is that Oda gets a bit insane later in his life, and granting him more power for that point might be bad? But that insanity could be avoided. Or maybe Japan would be too powerful for WW2 and slap USA? But WW2 might not even pan out like that if Japan is so heavily altered.
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i know for sure that if i was stuck in shizuko's position with a wealth of applicable, practical and useful worldly knowledge i'd be giving oda whatever the hell he asked for to gimme some more sleep time with the wolf pack.
responsibility? butterfly effect and for want of a nail?
dont care, gimme wolf besties.
responsibility? butterfly effect and for want of a nail?
dont care, gimme wolf besties.
@NazrinMaus
She's giving him military knowledge freely without regards to the ideas and morals at the time. The only person she can trust about actually acting with respect to some contemporary ideas of humanism is herself - instead she's giving tremendous power to a warlord just because. The blood of the ones dying is now on her hands. Furthermore she cannot predict what Nobunaga would do with that power. She's basically giving tools to people that are not mature enough for them. Good thing she at least doesn't know how to make nukes.
@Nep Nobunaga would never kill her after everything she did - instead she keeps feeding him military, industrial, and historical information. All she had to do was provide only agricultural aid and keep her mouth shut about anything else, as if she was not knowledgeable about it. Would you give primates a nuke?
She's giving him military knowledge freely without regards to the ideas and morals at the time. The only person she can trust about actually acting with respect to some contemporary ideas of humanism is herself - instead she's giving tremendous power to a warlord just because. The blood of the ones dying is now on her hands. Furthermore she cannot predict what Nobunaga would do with that power. She's basically giving tools to people that are not mature enough for them. Good thing she at least doesn't know how to make nukes.
@Nep Nobunaga would never kill her after everything she did - instead she keeps feeding him military, industrial, and historical information. All she had to do was provide only agricultural aid and keep her mouth shut about anything else, as if she was not knowledgeable about it. Would you give primates a nuke?
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@criver
If anything, her bringing a swifter end to the civil war is better. Unsure why you think a swift victory is worse than a drawn out victory. If you went back in time and could teach the Allies our modern technological concepts, you'd probably also give them details on the Central/Axis for the sake of ending that hellish war quicker for everyone.
If anything, her bringing a swifter end to the civil war is better. Unsure why you think a swift victory is worse than a drawn out victory. If you went back in time and could teach the Allies our modern technological concepts, you'd probably also give them details on the Central/Axis for the sake of ending that hellish war quicker for everyone.
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A swift victory might be better at first, but Ieyasu in the end probably was a way more suitable ruler in peacetime than Nobunaga. He was pretty much a tyrannical asshole (which probably is what got him killed). Anything he'd set up would probably have fallen apart just as quickly again.
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