The Politics Megathread

[EOTFOFYL]

As you wish.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-william-p-barrs-statement-riots-and-domestic-terrorism

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/534192/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/01/business/media/reporters-protests-george-floyd.html

https://nypost.com/2020/08/13/blm-organizer-who-called-looting-reparations-doubles-down/amp/

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/black-lives-matter-on-chicago-looting-black-lives-more-important-than-downtown-corporations/2320685/

https://abcnews.go.com/US/turning-point-black-lives-matter-organizers-wing-backlash/story?id=72863444

https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/ct-life-cb-black-lives-matter-chicago-20200903-xh75kbw5nfdk5joudlsgb2viwq-story.html

https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/us/white-nationalists-tiki-torch-march-trnd/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/20/business/media/charlottesville-tiki-torch-company.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/28/far-right-thugs-exploit-black-lives-matter-movement-warns-uk-anti-extremism-chief

https://www.opb.org/news/article/aclu-sues-portland-oregon-police-officers-attacked-journalists-blm-protests/

https://www.ajc.com/news/police-deny-link-mysterious-umbrella-man-who-broke-windows-during-riot/3j8cSrRBHjvnvX0PRwIYIP/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53934109

https://time.com/5866336/police-supporters-black-lives-matter-protesters-brooklyn/

https://amp.kansascity.com/news/local/article243553662.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/black-lives-matter-trump-martin-gugino-buffalo-protest-antifa-police-a9558441.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/journalist-attacks-black-lives-matter-protests-usa-blm-police-brutality-a9607036.html

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/jun/30/australian-journalist-tells-us-inquiry-she-was-beaten-by-police-at-blm-protest

https://nypost.com/2020/12/30/ex-reporter-charged-with-torching-cop-cars-during-blm-protests/

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/trump-loyalists-push-evidence-free-claims-antifa-activists-fueled-mob-n1253176

@YumoYumo
And sure, I'm a greedy bastard of sorts, but even I have limits. Maintaining power projection makes sense as a policy, being a World police is....what's the word.... gross? All major powers are doing this in some form or another.

 

[YumoYumo]

@EOTFOFYL
CNN, The Guardian, New York Times, Independent... And other totally reliable and unbiased media. Come on, mate, I don't want links. I want funny pics and shit on america.

 

[EOTFOFYL]

@YumoYumo

Unlike Y'all Qaeda and co you're going to be hard pressed to find anything funny about BLM without coming off as an ass. And unbias media does not exists, not when humans are in the loop. Anyways....

Your wish is granted,
try not to overdose now.
Use responsibly.

Spoiler

 

[Ivegotnolife]

 

[2SpiritCherokeePrincess]

@EOTFOFYL The capitalists have also made sure that companies can fire whoever they want, so terrorists are returning home to find they no longer have an income. https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-ne...ired-after-internet-detectives-identify-them/

A reminder of who Trump is: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...sconduct-karen-johnson-how-many-a9149216.html

And one of the ways the right controls people's minds is by scaring them with how dangerous minorities are. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/are-blacks-a-criminal-rac_b_8398
https://www.history.com/topics/1980s/central-park-five
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/nazi-propaganda

 

[Chrona]

@YumoYumo
Did you hope your post would stay up despite using the gamer word?

 

[OniBarubary]

@EOTFOFYL I admire your persistence in the face of the utter trash of humanity.

 

[EOTFOFYL]

@2SpiritCherokeePrincess

I'm aware, its also funny when some of them suddenly regret their actions after they get slapped by karma.

@OniBarubary

 

[Tamerlane]

I would advise against trying to target the livelihoods of people, especially if they were at the protest itself and weren't apart of the people who entered the capitol building.

The people who entered the capitol building are probably going to see jail time, which is punishment itself.

What will be achieved by targeting people's livelihoods besides trying to make it so they are unable to participate in society? And when people are unable to participate in society, they tend to take radical or extreme actions, even more so than they already have.

There's nothing more dangerous than someone who has nothing to lose, and if you keep stripping people of their right to life, liberty and property, they'll only radicalize and escalate.

 

[Ivegotnolife]

Do I even want to know the origins of YomYom's stealth ping, and seeming now missing post?

 

[EOTFOFYL]

Those businesses want nothing to do with them which is totally understandable given what transpired. As more info gets released this shithole of an event gets deeper and there's yet to be an end in sight.

At this point a non zero number of these people are beyond saving if the latest threats are real, which wouldn't surprise me if they were. A message needs to be sent, one that people cannot ignore, a meaningful consequence... and apparently hitting the wallet is what it takes to make people feel remorse.

They didn't care how their actions affected the country, nor did they stop to think how it affected those around them, but suddenly their livelihoods are under fire and now they start giving a damn?

That one magic book put it so eloquently:

For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind...

@Ivegotnolife
Mild but still unacceptable content if that makes sense.

 

[Ivegotnolife]

So was I the target of his Napalm tirade, or just a side comment?

 

[EOTFOFYL]

@Ivegotnolife
The latter. You really wouldn't miss much.

 

[Ivegotnolife]

Ok Thanks.

Here's PunishedTrump's statement ^{Jan 13}

And as a American citizen that actually heard the speech he gave on the 6th of January I can't for the life of me figure out what part of it could be interpreted as a Dog whistle trigger statement in even the most screwed up Tidepod sucking pea brains of the Jackass Generation_TM!
How can what I heard as a call to gather at the Capital as a show of support for the representatives who were about to stand up, and call to attention the concerns of their constituents on the floor of congress get muddled and interpreted to mean a call to storm the halls , and kick their asses?

Personally I believe it would be best to just boycott the innaugeration, stay home, and avoid the armmed mob events they are trying to gather as a excuse to frame anyone that doesn't back the new government ascent to power as terrorists in need of supression and purge.

 

[EOTFOFYL]

This is possibly the first time he has uttered a coherent speech, never mind the the contents of the video that alone is impressive considering this happened not long ago:

 

[Mr_Detective]

A: sets buildings on fire - set people's livelihood on fire - get free money from big corporations - called peaceful by media.

B: broke a few things in the capitol building - nothing burned down - lose their jobs - labelled as terrorists.

C: "Please wear masks, keep distance and avoid large indoor gathering, unless you are protesting for our agenda then you are covid-proof."

Buffet equality. One rule of us, one rule for you. If it's up to me, they're all getting the boot.

 

[Chrona]

@Ivegotnolife
All he did was invoke the gamer words and think his post would stay up.

@EOTFOFYL

At this point a non zero number of these people are beyond saving if the latest threats are real, which wouldn't surprise me if they were. A message needs to be sent, one that people cannot ignore, a meaningful consequence... and apparently hitting the wallet is what it takes to make people feel remorse.

You are right that this 'might' help prevent new people from getting radicalized, but this doesn't solve the current radicals and only radicalizes them further. What happens after they feel remorse? Do they get allowed back into proper society? If not, the existing radicals get pushed out of normal society and into a nothing to lose situation. While businesses have every right to toss these people away, what exactly do you think they will do after that? Apologize on social media and go back to living their normal lives?

They didn't care how their actions affected the country, nor did they stop to think how it affected those around them, but suddenly their livelihoods are under fire and now they start giving a damn?

I think they did it precisely because they cared about how their actions affected the country. Tell me, if you legitimately believed the election was fraudulent, and that the democratic process was being undermined, what is the moral thing to do in that situation? Just accept the fraudulent results? I would say, if that is legitimately what you believed, there is only one moral path forward, and that is to fight as hard as possible for ensuring the results were legitimate. Now, if I am to believe liberal talking points, the type of person to believe election fraud took place, is probably also stupid, and in that case, probably has impaired ability to understand why taking good moral actions would have such severe negative consequences. Alas, here they are learning their lesson that being a hero doesn't warrant a hero's welcome all the time. The fool's journey is a hard one.

Hell, all of this just reminds me of how Paul Miller AKA GypsyCrusader went from libertarian small-time "everyone has a right to participate in democracy" journalist, to alt-right "kill all jews, communists and [gamer word]s" internet meme man in less than a fucking year after getting doxxed and harassed out of his jobs.

 

[Ivegotnolife]

Didn't realize P**C**** had that much stigma attached to it! ^JK!

But I will say it's unbelievable how effectively the Progressive Movement, and the media have twisted the meaning of words in the english language to fit their narratives.

Progressive, liberalism, gay, affordable, nationalism, gender pronouns, neoconservative, insurrection, peaceful, and patriot no longer mean what the used to.

Also the alt-right are militant cucks, cut from the same cloth as the rent-a-mob thugs on the progressive liberal side of the street! _{If they all went out in a boat ,and the boat sank, not one of them would drown because can float!}
They have nothing in common with the American citizens that actually believe in the true meaning of the words Patriotism, Nationalism, and Liberalism! _{As defined in the dictionary.}

 

[EOTFOFYL]

It becomes a permanent stain in your history, how people react to it is beyond anyone's control. Perhaps they should have thought about this more thoroughly...

If they succeeded in this coup then forget about fraudulent elections, the election itself becomes meaningless. Why bother with this charade called democracy if people are going to force their way into power?

All this "what if I believed" hypothetical scenario is moot, It would mean that there is evidence beyond a reasonable doubt and at that point its the job of the Justice Department and any other related entities to step in and handle it and not mob rule. It's not something as grand as "liberal talking point," it's a basic "DO YOU HAVE SOME FUCKING EVIDENCE?" What happen to Innocent until proven guilty?

And since when did the "moral path" include assaulting police officers, stealing, destruction of public property, murder and attempted murder? This whole shit show should have stopped once one of these, minus murder, became apparent but nope this went on for hours before finally ending. They just wanted to "talk" to the politicians, huh.

 

[YumoYumo]

@Chrona turns out I was wrong, damn. Now I will use ginger as an anagram.