The Tyrant's Whereabouts - Ch. 37
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waow waow waow what a conundrum... wonder how things are going to end up-- thx for translating leslie
To the translator:
It's not just you, translating can be pretty hard, even when you are fluent in both languages. Grammar, sentence structures, images, even words can bleed through one language to the next.
I don't translate things often, but when I do, it's often easier and ultimately more accurate to approach it from a roundabout way:
- As bullet points, what does the sentence mean? Is there any subtext (implicit subjects, ambiguities, etc.) ? What is the level of language? If it's dialog, who is talking to who?
- Going from those short notes, how would I say it in the other language ?
- What details were lost in translation ?
Even then it can get pretty hard when two languages have similar structures or words (i.e. French and English share a lot of nouns) but they are not used in the same way (eventuellement / eventually, radiation (feminine plural in French, genderless singular in English), etc.
It's not just you, translating can be pretty hard, even when you are fluent in both languages. Grammar, sentence structures, images, even words can bleed through one language to the next.
I don't translate things often, but when I do, it's often easier and ultimately more accurate to approach it from a roundabout way:
- As bullet points, what does the sentence mean? Is there any subtext (implicit subjects, ambiguities, etc.) ? What is the level of language? If it's dialog, who is talking to who?
- Going from those short notes, how would I say it in the other language ?
- What details were lost in translation ?
Even then it can get pretty hard when two languages have similar structures or words (i.e. French and English share a lot of nouns) but they are not used in the same way (eventuellement / eventually, radiation (feminine plural in French, genderless singular in English), etc.
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Your doing a great job, thank you for all your hard work!
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Thanks for you this translating and this chapter
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Although I have no experience with it myself, I do know that at least "I know both of these languages but translating any more than the broad meaning is difficult," is a common complaint.
Or, by contrast, I personally picked up a good amount of Japanese by watching some absurd amount of subtitled anime as a child/teen/young-adult (enough to communicate, although badly), and I can very easily translate any Japanese I know to English (though not always so easily the other way 'round). And it's occurred to me over the years that there's like a whole extra body of knowledge that people use when translating, like a mental index of what words or phrases can map to which other ones, especially noticeable for various interesting-to-translate things, that's entirely it's own set of information.
It's like having to have a translation-dictionary memorized in addition to the knowledge that would be in both source-language's respective own-language dictionaries.
I also apologise, under the circumstances, for calling the translation machine-translate-y in a previous comment section. *sheepish look*
Or, by contrast, I personally picked up a good amount of Japanese by watching some absurd amount of subtitled anime as a child/teen/young-adult (enough to communicate, although badly), and I can very easily translate any Japanese I know to English (though not always so easily the other way 'round). And it's occurred to me over the years that there's like a whole extra body of knowledge that people use when translating, like a mental index of what words or phrases can map to which other ones, especially noticeable for various interesting-to-translate things, that's entirely it's own set of information.
It's like having to have a translation-dictionary memorized in addition to the knowledge that would be in both source-language's respective own-language dictionaries.
I also apologise, under the circumstances, for calling the translation machine-translate-y in a previous comment section. *sheepish look*
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I’m also a polyglot so I understand where you are coming from. Sometimes I mix up my french with Spanish (which is my mother language) or with English sometimes. I guess it’s kinda difficult because when we read we don’t really think about what language we are reading, we just naturally understand it, specially if we’re fluent. But when we write, talk, or translate a work we have to be conscious of the language we are using and their slangs, which, as a result, takes more effort and makes it more difficult.
