Usogui - Vol. 37 Ch. 399 - Great Fuss
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Everyman showing up, according to keikaku?
Cutting off Baku's reaction right after hearing the news of the food being brought back to the market. Getting back to classic Usogui.
Also, the passage of time on this island is confusing thanks to all the flashbacks and whatnot.
Cutting off Baku's reaction right after hearing the news of the food being brought back to the market. Getting back to classic Usogui.
Also, the passage of time on this island is confusing thanks to all the flashbacks and whatnot.
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Oh man... I was waiting for Oofuna to come on back!
And Robert K. is most certainly not done for the count. Hopefully, Douji is fine and Robert K. just came back after being exiled.
You can still see that Robert K. is suffering from his injuries with half his face drooping. Likely paralysis right there.
And Robert K. is most certainly not done for the count. Hopefully, Douji is fine and Robert K. just came back after being exiled.
You can still see that Robert K. is suffering from his injuries with half his face drooping. Likely paralysis right there.
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Oh man this, this became THAT kind of Nobuko Fever Time, oh boy things are getting hot.
@RapidLord maybe it was referee Nanpou the one who called Ooguna?
@RapidLord maybe it was referee Nanpou the one who called Ooguna?
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One theory I have is that Leader can still "remember" things that have left a lasting imprint on him. From our perspective these seem to mostly be things he learned from Baku. Namely:
- The most thrilling gambles are when you leave someone with nothing but their life, and they come back to fight you again. I think him not instantly killing Baku in the first Leader game is suspicious. I don't think he had lost his memory between the re-learning after the Fukurou gamble and Surpassing the Leader, but it obviously fundamentally changed him and made him Souichi again instead of Hal.
- You must gather people who are genuinely loyal to you; the loyalty Kakerou provides is only for the one who keeps winning, and will shift. Baku learned this on his first go-around with Kakerou and forged stronger bonds with his allies the second time around, which is one reason why Kyara had to stop being a referee. In Oofuna and Nobuko, Hal seems to have a couple allies around him now that are genuinely loyal to him, not just out of obligation to their Kakerou duties.
These might be the only lessons we know he learned for real based on his time with Baku. We don't really know what Kakerou is imprinting on him, and how much of it is real or fake. But that's just my hunch.
- The most thrilling gambles are when you leave someone with nothing but their life, and they come back to fight you again. I think him not instantly killing Baku in the first Leader game is suspicious. I don't think he had lost his memory between the re-learning after the Fukurou gamble and Surpassing the Leader, but it obviously fundamentally changed him and made him Souichi again instead of Hal.
- You must gather people who are genuinely loyal to you; the loyalty Kakerou provides is only for the one who keeps winning, and will shift. Baku learned this on his first go-around with Kakerou and forged stronger bonds with his allies the second time around, which is one reason why Kyara had to stop being a referee. In Oofuna and Nobuko, Hal seems to have a couple allies around him now that are genuinely loyal to him, not just out of obligation to their Kakerou duties.
These might be the only lessons we know he learned for real based on his time with Baku. We don't really know what Kakerou is imprinting on him, and how much of it is real or fake. But that's just my hunch.
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I agree with the first point, not so much with the second point. Baku never clearly had allies outside of Kakerou during his time with Hal, so I doubt it's something he could have learned.
It's a very interesting topic, Hal's memory loss. Team Duwang's picture a long time ago implied that it is completely impossible for Hal to remember things that he forgets from one of his wipes. But I have to wonder if certain ideals can carry over through his bouts of memory loss. On top of that, he was able to fight with someone like Voja, so his mind is able to keep up with his physical level of training.
I agree with the first point, not so much with the second point. Baku never clearly had allies outside of Kakerou during his time with Hal, so I doubt it's something he could have learned.
It's a very interesting topic, Hal's memory loss. Team Duwang's picture a long time ago implied that it is completely impossible for Hal to remember things that he forgets from one of his wipes. But I have to wonder if certain ideals can carry over through his bouts of memory loss. On top of that, he was able to fight with someone like Voja, so his mind is able to keep up with his physical level of training.
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My thinking is that (if I'm remembering correctly) in the gamble with the clams, which Hal snuck in to watch, the big lesson Baku learned was that his set of allies back then did not truly believe in him but were rather allies of convenience. Baku learned that (he realized Kyara would never truly be "on his side" if he was still part of Kakerou) and was able to reset and build a group of true allies after the Surpassing the Leader game. Hal, being in attendance for that clams camble, may have learned the same lesson, because iirc he saw the entire fallout of the gamble.
My theory with the "remembering things that he forgets from his wipes" is that he can remember ideals or things in his subconscious, but the Kakerou "imprinting" overrides most of his personality. It would help explain why his personality and actions as Souichi vs Hachina/Hal are so different.
My thinking is that (if I'm remembering correctly) in the gamble with the clams, which Hal snuck in to watch, the big lesson Baku learned was that his set of allies back then did not truly believe in him but were rather allies of convenience. Baku learned that (he realized Kyara would never truly be "on his side" if he was still part of Kakerou) and was able to reset and build a group of true allies after the Surpassing the Leader game. Hal, being in attendance for that clams camble, may have learned the same lesson, because iirc he saw the entire fallout of the gamble.
My theory with the "remembering things that he forgets from his wipes" is that he can remember ideals or things in his subconscious, but the Kakerou "imprinting" overrides most of his personality. It would help explain why his personality and actions as Souichi vs Hachina/Hal are so different.
