Usogui - Vol. 40 Ch. 436 - During The Asphyxia
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Ha, nice scene. Reminds me of Tatsuki and Yakkou conversing mid-punch. I understand it means the line of thoughts of both characters in a short instant, its what they told each other by that small gesture when Kaji put his hand on the glass.
NOW I can resume learning poker.
Btw my record underwater was only 25 seconds.
NOW I can resume learning poker.
Btw my record underwater was only 25 seconds.
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Damn, our boi Kaji is slowly becoming Baku equal.
You know, I'm getting less confident about my theory of Baku secretly saving air now. I thought that would be only reason he would break the glass on the dial for that, but if he did have the air saved, I assumed that he would've used it right now instead of being in such pain right now. Or he could be saving the air for even a more crucial situation? I have no idea right now.
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Congrat to all the readers that found the game rules. You'are amazing!
@xkcdhawk I am pretty sure that the thing he broke was the opening of one of his air bios. On a crucial time he will gave it to Lalo and thanks to that Lalo will miscaculate the air bios he has left.
I think my record underwater was around 45 seconds (It has been a long time. I don't know now). But it was not in a stressful situation and I wasn't thinking about anything.. And Baku is, on top of that, not sporty nor trained at all....
@xkcdhawk I am pretty sure that the thing he broke was the opening of one of his air bios. On a crucial time he will gave it to Lalo and thanks to that Lalo will miscaculate the air bios he has left.
I think my record underwater was around 45 seconds (It has been a long time. I don't know now). But it was not in a stressful situation and I wasn't thinking about anything.. And Baku is, on top of that, not sporty nor trained at all....
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I'm on the edge of my fucking seat, nay, I have already fallen off because this shit's so damn good.
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With an 8, Lalo's only hands could be A-A-A-A-4, A-A-A-2-3, or 2-2-2-A-A
Meanwhile, Baku's could be 7-7-7-7-J, 8-8-8-8-7, 9-9-9-9-3, J-J-J-3-3, 9-9-9-6-6, or a wide variety of different three-of-a-kinds
Not sure why Kaji is so confident that Baku will win, since he can't possibly beat a four-of-a-kind of aces, can only beat 2-2-2-A-A with one of the five hands I identified, and can only win against A-A-A-2-3 with one of those hands or a flush.
Someone let me know if my math is crap.
Meanwhile, Baku's could be 7-7-7-7-J, 8-8-8-8-7, 9-9-9-9-3, J-J-J-3-3, 9-9-9-6-6, or a wide variety of different three-of-a-kinds
Not sure why Kaji is so confident that Baku will win, since he can't possibly beat a four-of-a-kind of aces, can only beat 2-2-2-A-A with one of the five hands I identified, and can only win against A-A-A-2-3 with one of those hands or a flush.
Someone let me know if my math is crap.
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@Haremmony
Yes. To put it in more of a "rule" situation,
Yes. To put it in more of a "rule" situation,
Cards already used for a hand cannot be used again.
@Naiyro
The reason I mentioned the air dial was that in the previous chapter it was shown that the dial's glass was broken. And in a few chapters back we saw a floating glass that could match perfectly the size of that air dial. My theory was that Baku is manipulating the dial's hand so that he actually has more air than he is letting on. So those used air bios actually has air in them rather than being completely empty.
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You know, thinking about Baku, that really is a Baku like thing to do. I mean here we have a person who risks his life to just check an assumption (the tower game where he risked his life to get a clue and lost an eye for it), and cut off his own fingers for his victory (the finger game), so I guess if we say it is a Baku like thing to do to suffocate in order to up his victory, I can see that being the case too.
The reason I mentioned the air dial was that in the previous chapter it was shown that the dial's glass was broken. And in a few chapters back we saw a floating glass that could match perfectly the size of that air dial. My theory was that Baku is manipulating the dial's hand so that he actually has more air than he is letting on. So those used air bios actually has air in them rather than being completely empty.
@nhattminhh
You know, thinking about Baku, that really is a Baku like thing to do. I mean here we have a person who risks his life to just check an assumption (the tower game where he risked his life to get a clue and lost an eye for it), and cut off his own fingers for his victory (the finger game), so I guess if we say it is a Baku like thing to do to suffocate in order to up his victory, I can see that being the case too.
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Where was the floating glass? I missed that
It took me about 45 minutes to do the calculations and grasp the rules and their implications, I have no idea how Kaji managed to figure it out so quickly.
Calculating all of this nonsense in your head while you're underwater will make you consume a metric tonne of air. I'm guessing that's why it's been said that "even if you figure it out, you will just be taken deeper into the nightmare".
P.S. Lalo is holding 47, which is (currently) the strongest hand possible: A-K-Q-J-10.
Assuming it's really "the best possible hand", in the first round, Lalo played 15, which is a A-2-3-4-5 straight flush. Usogui played 36, which is 8-8-8-8-4. In a sense, Usogui got lucky that he played such a garbage card against a straight.
Now, since an ace has already been used, Lalo's 8 is a garbage 2-2-2-A-A full house, while Usogui's 39 is a 9-9-9-9-3 four-of-a-kind. There should be no more 9s or 7s left in the deck, and just a single ace (and a single 2).
But if that's the case, it makes me wonder what happens when your "best case scenario" contradicts with the opponent's "best case scenario". I guess they cancel each other out, and then the loser suffers a "calamity". If that's the case, I'm pretty sure the last round will be guaranteed to have a calamity, and the 4th will be extremely likely to have one.
Now, since an ace has already been used, Lalo's 8 is a garbage 2-2-2-A-A full house, while Usogui's 39 is a 9-9-9-9-3 four-of-a-kind. There should be no more 9s or 7s left in the deck, and just a single ace (and a single 2).
But if that's the case, it makes me wonder what happens when your "best case scenario" contradicts with the opponent's "best case scenario". I guess they cancel each other out, and then the loser suffers a "calamity". If that's the case, I'm pretty sure the last round will be guaranteed to have a calamity, and the 4th will be extremely likely to have one.
Calculating all of this nonsense in your head while you're underwater will make you consume a metric tonne of air. I'm guessing that's why it's been said that "even if you figure it out, you will just be taken deeper into the nightmare".
P.S. Lalo is holding 47, which is (currently) the strongest hand possible: A-K-Q-J-10.
I'm also very suspicious of the fact that the referees did not give the players the opportunity to shuffle the 10 cards: they already stacked them on the table and told the players to draw cards from the top one by one. That means the two hands may have been pre-determined, the only unknown factor being which player will hold which hand. I bet there'll be some fuckery involving this to come.
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@xkcdhawk I can only think of one use for a secret air supply - and I'm assuming he will only have that one since it would be too obvious if he does something like that now - and that would be an endgame and long-odds strategy. On the plus side, though, he only sacrificed one bios for something potentially spectacular and he did it in a way that would probably prevent Lalo from copying the tactic and negating its value.
I wonder if Baku wouldn't mind for the calamity to happen to even himself if it makes the game go by quicker and distracts Lalo. At the very least that secret air bios would maximize story-telling tension as a tie break and I'm banking on you being right lol.
@Fusha Might just be my imagination, but the pre-determined nature of the drawing would add weight to the importance of the total sum of Baku's hand equating to roughly half the sum of a deck of cards. Problem is Lalo should be privy to this even without Kaji and could very well figure it out himself. I would suspect that this is the relevance of that observation more so than the potential tricks since at the very least the game would be practically random so long as both players don't know the rules at first. But I don't quite remember how the hands would be re-dealt if the game exceeds the 5 rounds and that's the only time I think it would gain relevance again.
I wonder if Baku wouldn't mind for the calamity to happen to even himself if it makes the game go by quicker and distracts Lalo. At the very least that secret air bios would maximize story-telling tension as a tie break and I'm banking on you being right lol.
@Fusha Might just be my imagination, but the pre-determined nature of the drawing would add weight to the importance of the total sum of Baku's hand equating to roughly half the sum of a deck of cards. Problem is Lalo should be privy to this even without Kaji and could very well figure it out himself. I would suspect that this is the relevance of that observation more so than the potential tricks since at the very least the game would be practically random so long as both players don't know the rules at first. But I don't quite remember how the hands would be re-dealt if the game exceeds the 5 rounds and that's the only time I think it would gain relevance again.
