Watari-kun no ×× ga Houkai Sunzen - Vol. 6 Ch. 35 - Still A Child

[Mitsuboshi]

Man i just wanted him and best girl to seal the deal

 

[Mnuchinboo]

@mulrich the number of women quitting their jobs after there first child and becoming housewives is extremely low now. The reason for this is bc just one parent job can no longer cover for all the expenses of a child, house, food, water, electricity, etc. Anymore back in late 70s yeah you could but after the 70s when the 80s came the economy tanked and both parents had to get jobs bc of inflation. This is in the US idk about Japan.

 

[mulrich]

@Mnuchinboo, the US still stands out as having that norm among high-income families to a much greater extent compared to the rest of the western world.

 

[chenando1]

and here we have the classic "my child is forever a child even if he/she is 30+ years old" type of thinking parent that uses all sorts of threats in the form of "worrying, feeling sad, feeling betrayed, feeling hurt, etc" by their kid´s "rebelling conducts" (which we all know it´s not) in order to have them do what the want turning them into mindless slaves to them.

 

[burnttoast54]

@chenando1 relax, its not that deep

 

[Bogdan6222]

Another chapter where nobody died.

 

[kuma]

this mother is really, really a bad news!

 

[77BLc9JwJGpLVARkamJx]

Mother just want to join in.

 

[ma_ko]

Satsuki is so best it isn't even a contest

 

[Siquall]

Mc really don't deserve Satsuki .
She's wayyyyyyyy too good for him.

 

[kernyang]

Another beta mc

 

[Orcbolg1]

@Siquall
but Satsuki shine the most with his type of mc
when i imagine Satsuki with an alpha mc, I can only see her turning generic

 

[godxan]

INB4 marriage interview
SHIP IS STILL SAILING BOIS

 

[Elbow]

@Mnuchinboo Well not only inflation but also that the state/taxes has increased and you can't do joint tax declarations anymore. For instance if the husband earn 100k and the mother is a housewife they could split the earnings as a household and pay the same percentage as someone making 50k, but with the system we have now you're pretty much forced to work.

That's one of the biggest reasons they gave women the right to vote too, the politicians wanted them to get more involved in society and becoming part of the workforce so they could grow the economy.

 

[CountBaltorious]

@Elbow I come from a very conservative family in the Great American Empire, my mother was a stay at home mother and both my sisters are stay at home mothers. Moreover, they did not marry into upper middle class or above (although my family is upper middle class or lower-upper class), and you can bet that I will not marry a girl that is not willing to be a stay at home mom. That would be betraying my families traditions, and as the next in line to be patriarch that simply would not do.

My observation is that it is harder, but if you believe in it in principle it is well within possibility, if you are frugal and practice home economics. Sometimes you have to pay for your beliefs, but that is not a reason not to have them. Also, having a stay at home mom allows you to perpetuate your clan beliefs through indoctrination, particularly if you home school. Hence, a stay at home mother is a tool that is worth paying a fair amount for to keep dynastic values and beliefs strong.

 

[Elbow]

@CountBaltorious I don't think that simply because something is a tradition it's an argument to keep doing it, and I also have a hard time to group myself in with the ''conservatives'' we have today since other than technological advancements society has only gotten worse after WW1 and most of them only want to go a generation back, when taxes was a little lower and we had less immigration.

I do agree though that homeschooling is the way to go with our current educational system. I've heard plenty of horror stories about the American ones and my firsthand experiences with Swedish academia doesn't fall short; teachers telling girls they should go pop their hymen with a pencil, sexism towards boys giving them lower scores on average than girls in subjects they're better at, ''educational viewing'' of Michael Bay movies/an inconvenient truth, history revisionism and since I left it's only gotten worse. Swedish schools that ban our flag from its grounds stating ''it's offensive to other nationalities'', school cafeterias ridding pork from the menu for obvious reason and now we have Muslim schools where they segregate the student based on gender and teach them to hate non-believers. Coming out from Swedish academia I had some serious misconceptions and assumptions about our society that took me 5 years to get rid off.

Worst part is that homeschooling is more or less forbidden in Sweden now since 2010 so as a parent you wouldn't even have the option to spare your children from it while most private schools are obligated to go along with the politicians' fancies. I don't mind the idea of government-funded education but the state sure as hell shouldn't run it since it'll only be abused by them to indoctrinate the young and dye them in their color while they still can't think for themselves.

 

[CountBaltorious]

@Elbow It is troublesome that conservative means different things in different countries, but that is because culture is different in different countries. So, I admit the term inhibits communication between people from different countries, due to potentially different meanings of the term.

As for tradition,

Spoiler

my stance is that tradition is there for a reason. While some reasons are bad, immoral, or now obsolete, some are still relevant. I believe that following tradition is a good default, and that you need a reason to not follow it, as it may have a good reason for being there. Hence, you should understand the reason behind the tradition before you stop following it, and have a reason to not follow it. I see within a given tradition, new traditions arise over time, and some fall into neglect. Thus, other than the core values and practices of a tradition, it should be an evolving body of wisdom and practice to help people know what to do without figuring everything out for themselves. I believe this is a benefit as human lives are currently short, and it is very time consuming to figure out an entire way of life yourself, it is better to take a way of life and change those aspects you care about and choose to change.

Pity about homeschooling in Sweden, I had hoped that was only a problem in Germany, it is always sad to hear things are not going well in your ancestral homeland.

 

[Mnuchinboo]

@CountBaltorious
I don't think conservatives can rely on traditional values in the coming decades. The world is becoming more advanced than it ever has been. Technology that were state of the star are now obsolete because of how fast of technology is advanced. With that the spread of ideas, ideologies, political philosophies, conservatism is becoming more dated. There is nothing wrong with conservatism it's a benefit that keeps things in check when it needs to be. As for housewives, data shows they are becoming fewer and fewer because of need for extra income, a poor economy, taxes, etc. One way for an average person to know this is the case, look at daytime soap operas if you look at their time slots they used be running from 11 to around 3 pm. Now most of them run on late night from 5pm to around 3am and the reason for that is because more mothers have jobs mostly come home around 5 pm.

 

[PiakuchuKiller]

i think the mom wants a piece of watari too.

Satsuki > F Cup Chan. but f cups are tempting........

 

[Seoul]

Yikes