Assassin de Aru Ore no Sutetasu ga Yuusha Yori mo Akiraka ni Tsuyoi Nodaga - Vol. 1 Ch. 5.1 - Trap (4) - Part 1
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Wow you guys are all wannabe heroes and you're all soooo smart...
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- Why didn't he get rid of the other crystal ? Maybe because he fuckin' didn't KNOW they existed. He found the princess doing things with an artefact, so he immediately destroyed it. How the hell was he supposed to know she had a whole stack of those ? He assumed one artefact did the job. Not a truckload of them.
- Yeah. As if he can just assassinate a princess and a king and get away with it so easily. He'll just get mobbed and hanged at the gate the next day. Hell, if he just went along with it, there's a lot of chance his friend guard captain and subordinate would get immediately executed. They already have assassin's on their trail. Not to mention the guard captain could have just handed him over if the MC did take such rash option without consulting him first.
- How powerful is the princess ? And do you really think the king have no bodyguard ? He managed to get away in this chapter because the guard captain and his subordinate prepared so he could escape soon and the princess didn't do anything to him.
- Dude is 15-6 years old. He's japanese in a peace-loving country that didn't have a single external conflict since 1945. You really think he could have killed someone in cold blood just like that ? Really ? Do YOU think you could have, if YOU were an angsty 16 years old in his place ?
Sure, from an omniscient reader his actions seems retarded. But he's a retarded teenager like all retarded teenager are.
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- Why didn't he get rid of the other crystal ? Maybe because he fuckin' didn't KNOW they existed. He found the princess doing things with an artefact, so he immediately destroyed it. How the hell was he supposed to know she had a whole stack of those ? He assumed one artefact did the job. Not a truckload of them.
- Yeah. As if he can just assassinate a princess and a king and get away with it so easily. He'll just get mobbed and hanged at the gate the next day. Hell, if he just went along with it, there's a lot of chance his friend guard captain and subordinate would get immediately executed. They already have assassin's on their trail. Not to mention the guard captain could have just handed him over if the MC did take such rash option without consulting him first.
- How powerful is the princess ? And do you really think the king have no bodyguard ? He managed to get away in this chapter because the guard captain and his subordinate prepared so he could escape soon and the princess didn't do anything to him.
- Dude is 15-6 years old. He's japanese in a peace-loving country that didn't have a single external conflict since 1945. You really think he could have killed someone in cold blood just like that ? Really ? Do YOU think you could have, if YOU were an angsty 16 years old in his place ?
Sure, from an omniscient reader his actions seems retarded. But he's a retarded teenager like all retarded teenager are.
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@ShinGetsu
I agree with your reasons that you give, but you fail to address the most painful part. Why would he show his face if he is not going to kill her? What the hell did he think was going to happen if you rob an evil princess who works for the king and she sees you do it? He could have waited for her to leave, gone to bed or something else before rummaging through her room. It goes completely against how the MC was explained to be soooo very careful and smarter than the rest of the class. He was supposed to think everything through and get more information, that was the kind of MC he was shown to be, and now he acts like a dumbass who charges in to solve his problems.
The only way this could not be the author's direct fault is if this scene was done or explained differently in the source material and this manga adaptation butchered it. Otherwise its simply https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ContrivedStupidityTropes. This falls under many of them.
I agree with your reasons that you give, but you fail to address the most painful part. Why would he show his face if he is not going to kill her? What the hell did he think was going to happen if you rob an evil princess who works for the king and she sees you do it? He could have waited for her to leave, gone to bed or something else before rummaging through her room. It goes completely against how the MC was explained to be soooo very careful and smarter than the rest of the class. He was supposed to think everything through and get more information, that was the kind of MC he was shown to be, and now he acts like a dumbass who charges in to solve his problems.
The only way this could not be the author's direct fault is if this scene was done or explained differently in the source material and this manga adaptation butchered it. Otherwise its simply https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ContrivedStupidityTropes. This falls under many of them.
@ShinGetsu
> - Yeah. As if he can just assassinate a princess and a king and get away with it so easily.
So much this.
> - Yeah. As if he can just assassinate a princess and a king and get away with it so easily.
So much this.
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My one complaint is actually how the commander died. In earlier chapters it was portrayed that the commander had some inkling that the princess and king weren't really on the up and up. Why would he not have any backup doing whatever he was doing? The commander was also portrayed as a competent leader so....hm....does this mean he knew he was going to die so he left those things for the MC? I am not sure why the commander felt he had to sacrifice himself like that. What about the other children they summoned? If the commander is gone is the vice commander capable enough to protect the other kids?
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First- thanks for the scanlations, really enjoying it.
As for the content... I can't wait to see the king taken down and the princess...broken at least. Lacking some other mind control, etc. in effect on her.
As for the content... I can't wait to see the king taken down and the princess...broken at least. Lacking some other mind control, etc. in effect on her.
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@ShinGetsu your excuses are really lame.
-That's fair enough, but he shouldn't have shown himself in the first place. Super retarded move. Not killing her after leaving was the cherry on the top of the fail cake.
-Since he's already been framed, he should kill them both. There is no difference at that point. None whatsoever. He could also easily go to any other country with his MAX stealth, seeing as almost nobody can detect it.
-Considering the many opportunities the MC had to kill both the King and the Princess already, even in the very first chapter, you're reaching too hard here.
-In my opinion, Japan is not peace-loving at all. Going by their cultural manifestations (not only manga), it's pretty clear that they are really all about honor and single-mindedness, peace not really factoring in when it conflicts with their current focus.
-That's fair enough, but he shouldn't have shown himself in the first place. Super retarded move. Not killing her after leaving was the cherry on the top of the fail cake.
-Since he's already been framed, he should kill them both. There is no difference at that point. None whatsoever. He could also easily go to any other country with his MAX stealth, seeing as almost nobody can detect it.
-Considering the many opportunities the MC had to kill both the King and the Princess already, even in the very first chapter, you're reaching too hard here.
-In my opinion, Japan is not peace-loving at all. Going by their cultural manifestations (not only manga), it's pretty clear that they are really all about honor and single-mindedness, peace not really factoring in when it conflicts with their current focus.
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@ShinGetsu
That's like the 'dumb kid' argument for movies. Where little kids go out of their way to do super fucking retarded things. Like they'd have to be smart to be so fucking stupid.
If he knows the Princess is using mind control/black magic fuckery and he was willing to consider killing the King in chapter 1 (because he was SUSPICIOUS there was fuckery going on) - there's absolutely no reason why he wouldn't assassinate the princess at that point. Especially revealing his face and being like "HAHA your schemes are thwarted". Why wouldn't he simply swipe the crystal in the night? Why wouldn't he just kill her? And saying 'hurr peace lover' - is not an argument. He considered murder in the first chapter and ONLY FALTERED BECAUSE NO EVIDENCE
The only reason is that the MC has to act retarded because otherwise the PLOT ends immediately.
Which is fucking retarded. Like how shallow of a story do you have to have, or rather how the fuck do you write yourself into your own pitfall.
This would make far more sense if the MC was just fucking stupid from the getgo. He believed and trusted everyone and then gets fucked. OR JUST HAVE HIM KILL EVERYONE AND MOVE ON FROM THIS FUCKING AWFUL PLOTLINE. Fucking christ.
That's like the 'dumb kid' argument for movies. Where little kids go out of their way to do super fucking retarded things. Like they'd have to be smart to be so fucking stupid.
If he knows the Princess is using mind control/black magic fuckery and he was willing to consider killing the King in chapter 1 (because he was SUSPICIOUS there was fuckery going on) - there's absolutely no reason why he wouldn't assassinate the princess at that point. Especially revealing his face and being like "HAHA your schemes are thwarted". Why wouldn't he simply swipe the crystal in the night? Why wouldn't he just kill her? And saying 'hurr peace lover' - is not an argument. He considered murder in the first chapter and ONLY FALTERED BECAUSE NO EVIDENCE
The only reason is that the MC has to act retarded because otherwise the PLOT ends immediately.
Which is fucking retarded. Like how shallow of a story do you have to have, or rather how the fuck do you write yourself into your own pitfall.
This would make far more sense if the MC was just fucking stupid from the getgo. He believed and trusted everyone and then gets fucked. OR JUST HAVE HIM KILL EVERYONE AND MOVE ON FROM THIS FUCKING AWFUL PLOTLINE. Fucking christ.
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I can think of 2 possibility, either the author is really stupid or the author really understand his target audience so he write story that sound really cool for 8th grader.... I can imagine 8th grader really like this kind of story and pretend to be assassin after reading this manga...
