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Koi to Utatane - Vol. 2 Ch. 13
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https://mangadex.org/chapter/761001/1
you might like flipping through this a bit could help
you might like flipping through this a bit could help
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Thanks for picking this up, I've been waiting for ages for someone to do it. As far as the translation goes, your grammar is pretty good. I don't really know Japanese, so I can't say how precise the tl is, but it's not something that can't be understood. The only thing I personally have issue with is the format, i.e. the width of the chapter is smaller than the ones before, but it doesn't affect the reading that much so please do keep on doing this.
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@danknny I'm not sure, but someone called torinoskarte and Saki Tori?(早紀 鳥生) went around passing DMCA and emails directly to them and told them to stop it. Example is here https://www.lumendatabase.org/notices/15799462 and he even has this site for it http://torinos12.web.fc2.com/
Though I doubt it would affect mangadex in anyway.
Though I doubt it would affect mangadex in anyway.
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Thank you so much!!!
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Goddamn that’s the chapter the last translator quit before?? Welcome back sweet manga. Thanks for picking this up
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The typesetting could use a lot of polishing; the left alignment of all text is really off-putting. Some of the sentences are also very awkward in English.
Many thanks for picking this series up! HMU if you need any help with the following chapters. Either way, I'm looking forward to your next release!
Many thanks for picking this series up! HMU if you need any help with the following chapters. Either way, I'm looking forward to your next release!
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@jonsmth
You don't understand much about consumer behavior, do you? Pirating has shown next to zero impact on actual sales numbers. People who purchase legally do so out of conviction and willingness to support the creators, not out of necessity. And I seriously doubt there is even a single japanese reading this, especially given that in order for this translation to even exist, the raw chapters must appear on the internet. So if anything, the japanese would be reading those. This project causes literally no harm to the authors finances.
You don't understand much about consumer behavior, do you? Pirating has shown next to zero impact on actual sales numbers. People who purchase legally do so out of conviction and willingness to support the creators, not out of necessity. And I seriously doubt there is even a single japanese reading this, especially given that in order for this translation to even exist, the raw chapters must appear on the internet. So if anything, the japanese would be reading those. This project causes literally no harm to the authors finances.
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@ililostMC
Consumer behavior doesn't matter. Publisher perspective does. If their magazine sales are looking bad (there's already a downward trend with that afaik), they'll look for things to blame. One of those things would be piracy. If a publisher is not doing well, so does an author's job security. Regardless of piracy directly affecting the author or not, the author would feel troubled and may blame piracy for it. The author would mind.
On a side note, scanlations did affect a certain author directly before. It was when the scanlation was publicized before the magazine did, and fans were already talking about it on Twitter, spoiling it for the other fans (I forgot which series and authors this was).
Consumer behavior doesn't matter. Publisher perspective does. If their magazine sales are looking bad (there's already a downward trend with that afaik), they'll look for things to blame. One of those things would be piracy. If a publisher is not doing well, so does an author's job security. Regardless of piracy directly affecting the author or not, the author would feel troubled and may blame piracy for it. The author would mind.
On a side note, scanlations did affect a certain author directly before. It was when the scanlation was publicized before the magazine did, and fans were already talking about it on Twitter, spoiling it for the other fans (I forgot which series and authors this was).
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@jonsmth
That's the most devoid of logic thing I've ever heard, congrats. "Consumer Behavior doesn't matter" ??? What the hell are you smoking? It is literally the only thing that matters to either the publisher or the author as the consumer behavior generates revenue, i.e. buy or don't buy. Your entire argument boils down to: Their business is doing shit, so let them blame it on us. Nice approach, Bucko.
Also, great job straight up ignoring this part of my argument: "And I seriously doubt there is even a single japanese reading this, especially given that in order for this translation to even exist, the raw chapters must appear on the internet. So if anything, the japanese would be reading those." You completely ignore the fact that we are literally not part of the market this manga is sold to.
On a side note, your example is complete rubbish, because that is a leak, which is a completely different pair of shoes.
That's the most devoid of logic thing I've ever heard, congrats. "Consumer Behavior doesn't matter" ??? What the hell are you smoking? It is literally the only thing that matters to either the publisher or the author as the consumer behavior generates revenue, i.e. buy or don't buy. Your entire argument boils down to: Their business is doing shit, so let them blame it on us. Nice approach, Bucko.
Also, great job straight up ignoring this part of my argument: "And I seriously doubt there is even a single japanese reading this, especially given that in order for this translation to even exist, the raw chapters must appear on the internet. So if anything, the japanese would be reading those." You completely ignore the fact that we are literally not part of the market this manga is sold to.
On a side note, your example is complete rubbish, because that is a leak, which is a completely different pair of shoes.
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@ililostMC
I'm not trying to refute anything. You're not wrong. But it seems like you're not getting my point.
My point was that it doesn't matter how the market actually works. If the publisher feels troubled about it, so would the author. Period.
If the author and/or the publisher would feel troubled about it enough, then you'd have some cease and desist letters being sent out.
Conflict of interest is just another reason.
I'm not trying to refute anything. You're not wrong. But it seems like you're not getting my point.
My point was that it doesn't matter how the market actually works. If the publisher feels troubled about it, so would the author. Period.
If the author and/or the publisher would feel troubled about it enough, then you'd have some cease and desist letters being sent out.
The topic was about the author being troubled about scanlations. It's relevant.
Conflict of interest is just another reason.
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@jonsmth
Talking to you is just beyond pointless. For as long as the raw chapters, which are targeted at the people who can actually buy the manga, i.e. the japs, are available on the internet, the author won't do jackshit about english translations that have literally no affect on sales. That's like sitting in a burning house and calling the plumber instead of the fire department because your tap is dripping.
Your entire argument boils down to a bunch of big "Ifs", which at most would result on a slap on the wrist as the scanlator isn't even making money by doing this.
And your example is still rubbish because the author was not troubled by scanlations being released, but by scanlations being released before the actual manga. That's called a leak, had those leaks come out after the manga had ended(which this manga did), he would certainly not give a shit. So no, it's not relevant.
You actually saying that your example is still relevant makes it clear that you don't understand what you're even talking about. So if you have any great points to make, do so, I'm done explaining this to you.
Talking to you is just beyond pointless. For as long as the raw chapters, which are targeted at the people who can actually buy the manga, i.e. the japs, are available on the internet, the author won't do jackshit about english translations that have literally no affect on sales. That's like sitting in a burning house and calling the plumber instead of the fire department because your tap is dripping.
Your entire argument boils down to a bunch of big "Ifs", which at most would result on a slap on the wrist as the scanlator isn't even making money by doing this.
And your example is still rubbish because the author was not troubled by scanlations being released, but by scanlations being released before the actual manga. That's called a leak, had those leaks come out after the manga had ended(which this manga did), he would certainly not give a shit. So no, it's not relevant.
You actually saying that your example is still relevant makes it clear that you don't understand what you're even talking about. So if you have any great points to make, do so, I'm done explaining this to you.
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